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Old 04-26-2010, 04:37 AM   #1
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I just bought a GE 10.1 ounce 100% Silicone1 Window & Door Clear Sealant.

before i open it and reseal one of my tank, i wanna make sure if it safe for my fish.

i bought it from walmart ... i can't find a pic of it but it look like this one http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/Hom.../941923b_4.jpg
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:16 PM   #2
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That should be the right stuff. But look at the fine prints and make sure it does not mention anything about mildewcide, mildew inhibitor, etc.

A while back, GE was changing their labeling & some of the mildewcide containing stuff got called GE 1 (instead of of GE 2), causing confusion. <I think they marketed a new formulation and call that GE II, and all the old stuff got called GE I ... at least on a few of the web sites I checked .... anyways, just check the fine prints .... "window & door" should be fine.>
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That should be the right stuff. But look at the fine prints and make sure it does not mention anything about mildewcide, mildew inhibitor, etc.

A while back, GE was changing their labeling & some of the mildewcide containing stuff got called GE 1 (instead of of GE 2), causing confusion. <I think they marketed a new formulation and call that GE II, and all the old stuff got called GE I ... at least on a few of the web sites I checked .... anyways, just check the fine prints .... "window & door" should be fine.>
i think you're right, i went to lowe's today and i check the GE 2 and it say.

5. allow at least 3 hrs before exposing caulk to water. not for use below the water line, where FDA compliance is necessary, or aquariums.

does that mean its the right one?

Cause the GE 1 say the same thing but > allow at least 3 hrs before exposing caulk to water. not for use below the water line or aquariums.
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GE in the US has to say "not for use in aquarium" because of some legal thing. <They make the aquarium stuff & don't want people to know the cheaper stuff is the same ....>

In Canada, I can find silicone marked "ideal for aquarium" .... that is what I use. What you want is GE window & door, without any mildewcide. <Whatever the number they use at the moment.>
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ok here my report after i reseal a 55 n a 10.

so i bought both the 1 n 2, i use the 1 on a 55 n the 2 on the 10.

i bought some feeder goldfish, throw them in the 10 n the 55, woke up today and all the feeder in the 10 die, all the one in the 55 was still a live.

im not sure if its the GE 2 that kill the feeder in the 10 but im 100% sure it was. it cant be anything else beside that. not even 1 feeder live. so i have to say its the GE 2 that i bought.
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the trouble with the type 2 as opposed to the type 1 is that it comes with anti-fungal ingredients to stop mold and mildew. correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think this will kill a goldfish.
how long did you cycle this tank before adding the goldfish? how did you cycle the tanks?
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the trouble with the type 2 as opposed to the type 1 is that it comes with anti-fungal ingredients to stop mold and mildew. correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think this will kill a goldfish.
how long did you cycle this tank before adding the goldfish? how did you cycle the tanks?
both tank was just setup on the same day, i bought to goldfish to feed my bigger fish n help cycle the 2 tank.

i dont think it matter if the tank is cycle or not, i usely just buy goldfish and throw them into my empty tank for a couple of days till i run out.

what i do is buy 50 feeder, fill one of my empty tank up with cold water, throw them in there, take whatever i need, feed my big fish. i been doing this since forever now. even sometime without a filter, the feeder will live about 3-5 days b4 they die.

so i think its the GE 2 i bought. imma break down that tank and reseal it over again with some GE 1
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GE Silicone II is an ammonia cure, while Silicone I is an acetic acid cure. GE Silicone I for windows and doors, is safe to use. Regardless, give it enough time to cure, 3 to 5 days seems to be about right.
Keep in mind that silicones primary use is as a caulk, not an aquarium sealant. That use was stumbled upon by a local fellow, who went on to found Crystal Aquarium, the first manufacturer of all glass tanks.
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