Sump Design Question (New REfuge questions) - Aquarium Advice

flip_lx · 06-23-2007, 08:12 PM

So i'm planning out a basic sump for my 29 gallon and i was wondering if its possible to have one go in a U/culdasac fashion instead of the standard left to right (or vice versa) fashion. I ask because for space reasons i could get a "bigger" container that way but if i plumbed it normally one of the lines would go in front of my tank show side

theotheragentm · 06-24-2007, 01:31 PM

There is reason you couldn't set it up in that fashion. The sump is really just an open container to hide your equipment and do some filtration. You'll be fine doing it the way you described.

flip_lx · 06-24-2007, 01:37 PM

im thinking you forgot the "no" in front of reason theo? it won't cause any odd stress on the pump(s) to make the turn from intake side to return side?

~slight edit with new question for a HOB refugium is it possible to convert one of those "double" hob filters (like the emporor 400 minus bio-wheels) into an effective one or is it better to have the one large space like an AQ110? or slight re-edit 2 HOB filters converted vs 1 is that a waste of time or efficient?

**Ziggy953** · 06-26-2007, 01:33 AM

You could use HOBs as fuges but you will have to light them for the Macro to grow and do it's job. I've not had much luck doing that because of the small volume. You are much better off doing a fuge above or below your tank.

flip_lx · 07-01-2007, 10:56 PM

ok one more question been looking at the ebay glass kit for refugiums and i'm wondering do you have to have an overflow box from the tank or could you just run the pipe straight from tank to sump? will the siphon work fine or break to easily or is an overflow just an extra precaution?

the kit im eyeing is http://cgi.ebay.com/PRO-Refugium-kit...QQcmdZViewItem

MT79 · 07-06-2007, 01:10 AM

The overflow is an absolutely essential piece of equipment. I'm not crazy about that kit b/c the skimmer is more than likely going to be less than optimal- to say the least. You can use plexi-glass for the baffles, that way you can cut them yourself. HTH

**Ziggy953** · 07-07-2007, 07:10 PM

I agree, stay away from those kits if you can they are for the most part a waste of money. Mike is right use acrylic/plexi-glass from Home Depot or Lowes as your baffles...that's what I did. Works great!

06-23-2007, 08:12 PM	#1
flip_lx Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 225 Images: 1	Sump Design Question (New REfuge questions) So i'm planning out a basic sump for my 29 gallon and i was wondering if its possible to have one go in a U/culdasac fashion instead of the standard left to right (or vice versa) fashion. I ask because for space reasons i could get a "bigger" container that way but if i plumbed it normally one of the lines would go in front of my tank show side

07-06-2007, 01:10 AM	#6
MT79 Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: philadelphia. PA. Posts: 2,653 Images: 23	The overflow is an absolutely essential piece of equipment. I'm not crazy about that kit b/c the skimmer is more than likely going to be less than optimal- to say the least. You can use plexi-glass for the baffles, that way you can cut them yourself. HTH __________________ Mike

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06-24-2007, 01:31 PM	#2
theotheragentm Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,172	There is reason you couldn't set it up in that fashion. The sump is really just an open container to hide your equipment and do some filtration. You'll be fine doing it the way you described.

06-24-2007, 01:37 PM	#3
flip_lx Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 225 Images: 1	im thinking you forgot the "no" in front of reason theo? it won't cause any odd stress on the pump(s) to make the turn from intake side to return side? ~slight edit with new question for a HOB refugium is it possible to convert one of those "double" hob filters (like the emporor 400 minus bio-wheels) into an effective one or is it better to have the one large space like an AQ110? or slight re-edit 2 HOB filters converted vs 1 is that a waste of time or efficient?

06-26-2007, 01:33 AM	#4
Ziggy953 Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sumerduck, Virginia Posts: 3,866 Images: 5	You could use HOBs as fuges but you will have to light them for the Macro to grow and do it's job. I've not had much luck doing that because of the small volume. You are much better off doing a fuge above or below your tank.

07-01-2007, 10:56 PM	#5
flip_lx Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 225 Images: 1	ok one more question been looking at the ebay glass kit for refugiums and i'm wondering do you have to have an overflow box from the tank or could you just run the pipe straight from tank to sump? will the siphon work fine or break to easily or is an overflow just an extra precaution? the kit im eyeing is http://cgi.ebay.com/PRO-Refugium-kit...QQcmdZViewItem

07-07-2007, 07:10 PM	#7
Ziggy953 Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sumerduck, Virginia Posts: 3,866 Images: 5	I agree, stay away from those kits if you can they are for the most part a waste of money. Mike is right use acrylic/plexi-glass from Home Depot or Lowes as your baffles...that's what I did. Works great!