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Old 10-04-2002, 06:53 PM   #1
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HECK OF A GOOD PRICE !!

ok, I was going to put this in the retailers section, but I have not got it in yet, so technically I cannot review it. But, Jeff's Exotic fish has a great deal on their liverock right now. I asked them if they were golfball size or something and they assured me that they were 8# pieces on average, that they had just gotten a huge batch and needed to move some. They said it was the exact same stuff for sale on the regularly priced page. I bought a 50 # box to be delivered on Tuesday. It is listed at the top of the Sale:Livestock category and is 2.25 a pound. I guess I will be the group guinea pig on this one

I asked how long the sale would last and they said most likely through next week.
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Old 10-04-2002, 06:57 PM   #2
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The general retailers forum is specifically for things like this. This post can serve as a prelude, and you can review it after it gets here. Might also consider putting a review in the product review section.
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Old 10-04-2002, 07:02 PM   #3
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Do you mind sharing the cost per lb after shipping?

For example my rock from FFexpress was 45lbs for $85. So that would be $1.88/lb before shipping. But, I paid for next day shipping so that bumped the total cost to $150 or $3.33/lb.


Also, I hope you did not plan on putting this rock in the 150 along with your fish and other stuff right away. Its always good to have a seperate curing vessel to cure the rock in to make sure its ammonia free.
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Old 10-04-2002, 08:15 PM   #4
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After the cost of overnight shipping, it will be 3.54 per pound.

And yes, even though it is not the best way, I will have to put it in after a thorough cleaning. I will be prepared to do water changes if I have to, but I do NOT have the facilities nor equipment to cure the rock further. I do have another small tank to move the critters to if it becomes necessary.

I also think that the 2 Fluval 404's that are on the tank, should do a pretty mean job of holding the ammonia down. I have seen them do amazing work in the past.
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Old 10-04-2002, 08:28 PM   #5
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Well I do wish you the best of luck in your rock but I have seen that amount of rock throw out some tremedous ammoinia. Im talking off the chart several times over. When I was curing my first batch of rock I had a test kit that went to 2.0 ammonia and the tests for weeks showed ammonia levels many shades darker than the 2.0 reading.

An inexpensive rubbermade trashcan will work wonders to cure LR.

I look forward to seeing your rock.
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what about the protein skimmer, powerhead etc?
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Old 10-04-2002, 11:00 PM   #7
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no need for a skimmer to cure rock.

A PH should be used to keep the water from becoming stagnent. Also a heater to keep the water at tank temp.

Do you know if they are shipping it Monday? Is it cured rock?

The time in travel and also the condition of the rock as far as ammonia is before it leaves all plays a role.

As you can see from my post about my purchase with ffexpress even overnighted rock had enough die off to produce an ammonia level of 1.0 Not sure if it would have been higher because I did a 100% water change at that time.
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They are shipping it on Monday, will be here around 4:00 on Tuesday as that is normally when our fedx runs. They said it was "fully cured" and that I should experience almost no die off....I had emailed and asked how cured their "cured" was and told them I was wanting it for a newly established tank. The guy there told me that there would be no need to cure it further. I realize that this could be just a sales ploy but I am hearing the same thing from Harbor Aquatics and a couple of other places as well.

I do have an old bathtub in my utility room that I could put a powerhead into. We are in Louisiana and the temp should be plenty warm, "our evenings are barely hitting the 60's and daytime high today was 92.
I guess I could put a heater in there for the nighttime.
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The tub will work, just make sure it has been cleaned with bleach and has no soap residue in it. Unless they ship their rock fully submerged, there is going to be plenty of die off. Even then there will be some. As Aaron pointed out, a skimmer on your curing vessel is not a necessity, but it is benificial, if available. Even a cheap counter current air driven skimmer will work, but if you don't have one, don't sweat it.
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Overnight is a good shipping method.

I just wanted to make you aware of the possible ammonia surge.

The only way I can se there not being any die off would be if there was nothing to die off in the first place. The stuff that dies off durring shippment is the little sponges and small coral frags that might have started growing. Also any worms that might have made the rock a home and such like that. The very items that make the rock live rock in the first place.

I went to www.exoticfish.com to look at the info on the deal and it looks like its fiji rock and that is most likly Walt Smith rock then as they are a major aquaculture place in fiji http://www.waltsmith.com/
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