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Old 08-17-2005, 10:12 PM   #1
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1 inch per gallon, Piff......

hello all you guys!


Well i was reading over some posts and i saw taht ALOT of people were using the famous "one Inch per gallon" rule. adn as any experienced people know that THIS is just a VERY general rule, and this also does not apply to all of the fish speices. and i have made this post to conjure up all of you human-fishies to help me.

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all of you aquariust have diffrent special knowledges about certain types of fish, as in example, you would rely on Pufferpunk's advice for puffers. so i wanted to make a Diffrent guide for Fishes using this forum for all the noobies out there (including me)

A example is that if somone knows alot about cichlids then you can post somthing like " african cichilds need more gallons per fish since their aggressive so you need more like 5 to 6 gallons per inch" so i will start off and if anyone has any questions or im explaining this no-so-good then just post!!


ok this is a example of what to include in this thread
Guppies
the one inch per gallon rule can apply to Guppies, guppies are very hardy and when kept with other fish like platies and mollies the 1' rule can be used"
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Re: 1 inch per gallon, Piff......

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5 to 6 inches per gallon"
hmm. does that mean you need more fish per gallon of fish with africans?
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well taht was a example i dont really know but i would guess since they are bigger. but thats the thing somone who knows alot about africans would be able to correct me

and whoops i think i made a typo i mean 5-6 gallons per inch lol
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lol that would be alot of fish
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I disagree with that, guppies can be kept 3x that. and still remain healthy
eg. 30 guppies can live comfortably in a 10-15 gallon..and still have the water remain balanced, provided enough filtration...
I feel there are to many factors that go into the equation and really can hardly be judged to be a "standard" of length per gallon

I think this thread will cause alot of conflict and overvoiced opinions. I also think it has the potential of sparking a wide range of political debates about humanity that aren't nessicary, so be careful with that.
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well tahts what im saying i love to hear theses things!!!
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oxygen consumption is also a big factor. the ammonia isnt that big as long as theres plants or some way to get rid of the nitrates. and another one is swimming room. if its 2 small they'll grow deformed. but this is basic stuff that you guys already know.

oh and agression
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I think it sounds like a good idea. Sure there is controversy on how to stock a tank but the discussion will be helpful. You can certainly give both sides as advice (Some stock their tank this way, while others feel more comfortable stocking that way...)

Obviously people are looking for guidance otherwise the "1 inch per gallon" rule wouldn't be invoked as often. It's the only advice out there for the newbie so to create a stickie with better guidelines would be a great help. It would also keep everyone from having to answer the same questions again and again.

Here are a few ideas to get people thinking.

Things that figure into stocking:
1. The amount of work the aquarist wants to do. For example, I know someone who put two FW angel fish in a 90 gallon tank. He automated the lights with timers and filled an auto feeder once every two weeks. Not much work to do for that tank. Heavier stocking requires more work.

2. The experience of the aquarist. One with more experience will be able to recognize when things are going downhill in a tank faster than a newbie. Thus perhaps a newbie should stock more lightly to start off.

3. Filtration equipment. If someone has a lot of extra filtration on a tank then perhaps more fish can be happily housed in it. If someone has a canister on a 30 gallon would they be able to house more fish than for an HOB? (I don't know the answer to this.)

4. Plants. Do plants affect stocking plans? (I don't know the answer to this either).

5. The type of fish. Large bodied fish need more tank space than smaller ones.l (e.g., goldfish need more tank space than a guppy). It would be good to give guidelines according to the kind of fish. One thing that always puzzled me was the concept that a fish is "messy." I didn't understand what that meant for a long time. As I take it, "messy" means that the fish consumes a lot of food and therefore produces a lot of waste. Big waste makers need more gallons to the inch than minimal waste makers.

6. Some fish are schooling fish so there should be at least 6 of them (e.g., tetras). I didn't know that you really should count on having multiples of some kinds of fish. In a stocking guideline this would be good to mention.

7. Tank size. Some fish need more swimming room than what can be had in a particular tank. For example two african ciclids make up about a total of 10-inches of fish. But to put them in a 10 or 15 gallon tank would be cruel because they need something closer to 55 gallons to be able to swim around.

8. Aggression. If a fish is more aggressive/territorial, then it needs more space in the tank, not just more hiding places.

9. Cold water fish vs. tropical fish. On the FW side, I see people wanting to put goldfish or bettas in a tropical community tank. Guidelines should explain why these fish have different needs and shouldn't be housed together. I didn't understand the concept that these fish were different at the beginning. They are all lumped under freshwater so they should be able to be in the same tank, right? Wrong.


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I think coolchinchillas post should BE the sticky...
There is no true conclusion to this debate, and you mentioned all the factors i could think of..

Well said.
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I agree that this could be debated forever. I think it really comes down to the aquarist and how much effort he puts into his tanks. True, that there are general guidelines i.e. not a good idea to put an oscar in a 10 gal, however, someone who does 1-3 water changes a week and has strong filtration will definitely be able to house more stock then someone who sets up the same tank with a weak HOB and does water changes once a month.
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