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Old 03-11-2014, 10:40 PM   #11
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Richmond Aquarium has a very similar business as what you describe. Choose your market carefully. Along with experience running a fish store, your market (location) will be your leading factor.
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Old 03-11-2014, 10:47 PM   #12
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I'd suggest separating any in home services offered from your store, there are way to many variables that come into play, you could be the best tank maintainer on the planet and the cleaning lady sprays some febreeze in the room and boom.. Fishy apocalypse, all it takes these days is a few nasty write ups on google and your sunk. Not saying to forget the idea entirely just to shield yourself from any possible negative blow back!
This. You have to take this into account. Someone reads a review "Well they were maintaining my tank and all my fish died" looks terrible.

I think it would work for high end aquariums where the owner has invested a substantial amount of money, understands the requirements, but doesn't want to do the physical work. For example the doctor's office with the 125 saltwater filled with expensive fish.
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Old 03-12-2014, 01:12 AM   #13
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Thanks everyone. Sometimes people come up with an idea and fall in love with it and is blinded by it. I didn't consider separating the home services from my business. Valid I'd point with the negative ratings keeping me from prospering. Now that I think about it I should probably only offer it to high end fishtanks such as doctors offices. And the classes would be for those who would be maintaining the tanks themselves.

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Old 03-19-2014, 01:33 AM   #14
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My boss at my LFS builds and supplies many different accounts with maintenance and replacements. Not sure how he does it with Petco just down the road.

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Old 03-19-2014, 02:54 AM   #15
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1. List three things that you liked about my product/services described in my statement.
You have several services and products- everything all the successful LFS have in my area. The in-home services can easily be a part of your retail business. I'm not sure if you've taken any classes on contracts, but a good business will have anyone who signs up for their services sign a contract. Typically, you would mention there that "the cleaning lady causing death of all fish is not our fault" (but in more professional terms obviously)
2. Provide three suggestions for making the idea better.
1- You'll have to start small, unless you're ready to take out a massive loan, and 2- most marine biology degrees are an MS degree (not many schools offer a concentrated BS) so 3- keep 6 years (assuming average typical course load) of school loans in mind.
3. Do you think my idea is realistic? Why or why not?
Anything is realistic- as long as you expect to work for it
4. Would you, as my potential customer, buy my products and services? Why or why not?
Yes, assuming you were local of course. I visit my LFS about twice a week- not to always buy, but I feel so welcomed there and I might learn a thing or two just by hanging around and talking to employees and other customers, people are also more receptive to advice in person.
5. If you would buy it, how much would you pay for it?
Buy what? Your retail mark up highly depends on your competition. For example, I use prime, but I buy it at my large chain store because it's $5 cheaper there.
6. Please provide any comments or suggestions you think would be helpful.
Research, Research, Research. Formal education is not the only path for learning. I suggest you talk to people in the real world who have worked hard to be successful- anyone you think might be able to offer you experience and advice, even the people you DON'T think can help you. Definitely work in the industry before diving into it. And for down the road- be careful who you hire.

sources- Marine biology student and employee at family business (not aquarium related unfortunately...)

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Old 03-19-2014, 11:18 AM   #16
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Lots of good advice here, esp. from herp_mommy
You have a lot of moving parts there, and getting all of that running and established will take a lot of time and even more money. Your biggest problem may be finding good help that will stick around.
You may need to start small and add on as you become established and successful in the building block (core/essential to profit) areas.
As for using your products/services/store…if you’re the cheapest…with where you would be located that would have to include shipping.
The classes are a good idea, but think about offering them as a free, open topic, maybe one short planned presentation, etc. type of thing…at least to start out.
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Old 03-19-2014, 01:43 PM   #17
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All excellent advice but the first thing you need to do, is find out if you REALLY want to do this for a living. I have no doubt you would make a good go at it but it also, as mentioned, depends on a few factors. Hard work, good planning and a bit of luck. The best step forward for you now is to get some work experience in the services you wish to offer. There is nothing to beat experience and it will really help you understand if it's something you want to do as a career. Enjoying your own tank is one thing but being around them 8-12 hours a day maybe another. I wish you luck but as I said try and get that work experience.....
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1. List three things that you liked about my product/services described in my statement.
You have several services and products- everything all the successful LFS have in my area. The in-home services can easily be a part of your retail business. I'm not sure if you've taken any classes on contracts, but a good business will have anyone who signs up for their services sign a contract. Typically, you would mention there that "the cleaning lady causing death of all fish is not our fault" (but in more professional terms obviously)
2. Provide three suggestions for making the idea better.
1- You'll have to start small, unless you're ready to take out a massive loan, and 2- most marine biology degrees are an MS degree (not many schools offer a concentrated BS) so 3- keep 6 years (assuming average typical course load) of school loans in mind.
3. Do you think my idea is realistic? Why or why not?
Anything is realistic- as long as you expect to work for it
4. Would you, as my potential customer, buy my products and services? Why or why not?
Yes, assuming you were local of course. I visit my LFS about twice a week- not to always buy, but I feel so welcomed there and I might learn a thing or two just by hanging around and talking to employees and other customers, people are also more receptive to advice in person.
5. If you would buy it, how much would you pay for it?
Buy what? Your retail mark up highly depends on your competition. For example, I use prime, but I buy it at my large chain store because it's $5 cheaper there.
6. Please provide any comments or suggestions you think would be helpful.
Research, Research, Research. Formal education is not the only path for learning. I suggest you talk to people in the real world who have worked hard to be successful- anyone you think might be able to offer you experience and advice, even the people you DON'T think can help you. Definitely work in the industry before diving into it. And for down the road- be careful who you hire.

sources- Marine biology student and employee at family business (not aquarium related unfortunately...)

Hope this helps
The end of point one is very good! I also like point three, that is very true.

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All excellent advice but the first thing you need to do, is find out if you REALLY want to do this for a living. Enjoying your own tank is one thing but being around them 8-12 hours a day maybe another. I wish you luck but as I said try and get that work experience.....
I ended up doing it for a living and it's non profitable!
Somedays I spend that amount of time tending to my stuff.

(If you love what you are doing time is of little importance)

If you can make money out of something you love, enough to live on, then that is commendable. (Very few people achieve that in a lifetime)

Talk to people who have done it, Andy sager is here (hope you don't mind the mention) I'm sure he would have some excellent information that will be of use. Maybe even a few links to "the right people"
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I can't say enough positive things about the the idea of working IN the business before owning one. It's the best way to get into any business. I have worked in every aspect of the fish business in order to find my "calling". From collecting the fish, shipping the fish, wholesaling, retailing, importing and exporting. I worked at each for a minimum of 3 years so I really knew what I was getting in to before I got into it. I have owned every type of these businesses except for 1 type: Retail Pet Shop, and I have worked in many of them. I'm a "Fish Guy" and the retail pet shop is not about liking fish. In fact, it's not always about liking the animals you sell. If you do, that's a plus but not a prerequisite. My knowledge of and experience with these animals ( I've had pets ranging from house pets, reptile pets, bird pets, fish pets as well as Monkeys for pets) is what made me a desirable employee NOT a good Pet Shop owner. Most hobbyists, I've found, that open a fish store, generally don't last. It's a business and needs to be treated that way. Many of my customers in my wholesale house were shops that were in business for many, many years because they knew the business not because they new the fish. Trust me, I needed to educate many of my customers on the fish they were getting.
Me, I'm a fish breeder. It's what I like to do most and do very well with ( he says modestly ) because I know the fish. They are my passion in life. You may turn out to be a wizard in the business world with this venture, but you won't get that way if you don't know about the business of pet keeping. Again, get some practical experience first.

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I can't say enough positive things about the the idea of working IN the business before owning one. It's the best way to get into any business. I have worked in every aspect of the fish business in order to find my "calling". From collecting the fish, shipping the fish, wholesaling, retailing, importing and exporting. I worked at each for a minimum of 3 years so I really knew what I was getting in to before I got into it. I have owned every type of these businesses except for 1 type: Retail Pet Shop, and I have worked in many of them. I'm a "Fish Guy" and the retail pet shop is not about liking fish. In fact, it's not always about liking the animals you sell. If you do, that's a plus but not a prerequisite. My knowledge of and experience with these animals ( I've had pets ranging from house pets, reptile pets, bird pets, fish pets as well as Monkeys for pets) is what made me a desirable employee NOT a good Pet Shop owner. Most hobbyists, I've found, that open a fish store, generally don't last. It's a business and needs to be treated that way. Many of my customers in my wholesale house were shops that were in business for many, many years because they knew the business not because they new the fish. Trust me, I needed to educate many of my customers on the fish they were getting.
Me, I'm a fish breeder. It's what I like to do most and do very well with ( he says modestly ) because I know the fish. They are my passion in life. You may turn out to be a wizard in the business world with this venture, but you won't get that way if you don't know about the business of pet keeping. Again, get some practical experience first.

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