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Old 03-14-2013, 09:58 PM   #1
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Craigslist 29 gal. adventure

Answered an ad on Craigslist three days ago about a 29 gallon complete with stand. It was a little different from most aquarium ads. It was free. I was told it had everything needed. That it was still running and had 2 fish. So, I could not pass it up. I had to agree to take the fish.

When my wife and I got there the owner[teenager] and his dad was bringing the aquarium out of the house. They had just broke it down. When all was loaded I was handed a 6 pack cooler with 2 fish in it. Yea, 2 fish in a 6 pack cooler. Once again, I had to promise to keep the fish and not threw them away.

These 2 fish had been living for several years in a 29 gal tank. A Jack Dempsy about 5 1/2" long and a African Cichid about 4" long. I think it is a Labeotropheus fuelleborni (Chidunga). They both looked healthy with a few nipped fins.

Well, I have the fish back in the 29 gal.[most everything needed to set-up] I`m using Stability to try and ease the set-up. I`ll do water changes every 3 or 4 days. I don`t know what else to do. No store would have taken them not knowing where they came from. So, I guess if they survive for a few weeks, I`ll be able to maybe give them away. Then I can use the tank for smaller fish.

By the way, the tank was nasty, nasty with green algae covered glass. The filter was an AZoo 1000 that looked liked the media had not been changed in months. Left over food all around the top opening and light. How these fish had survived was a mystery. It seems media is no longer made for the AZoo 1000. So it is of no use. For the set-up I`m using a Pengium 150 bio wheel and 2 sponge filters driven by an air pump.


Free tank set-up but I`ll really be working for it.

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Old 03-17-2013, 12:24 PM   #2
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It`s been 4 days now and the two fish are still alive. They are eating well and don`t look like they are stressed out. Very, very little aggression. Nothing bad. The ammonia level today showed to be .75ppm. With a trace of nitrite. I do dally water changes of 6 to 8 gals. May go to 2 water changes a day.

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Old 03-17-2013, 12:44 PM   #3
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Wow!!! Good luck with this tank and the fish, whatever you decide to do with them. I was on Craigslist last night looking for another small betta tank and that's what I used for the key word: "small fish tank"... Well... One of the "small tank adds had a picture of man's hand holding a glass bowl, like a mini version of goldfish bowl, with little gravel in it and skull ornament. This Huey was calling it "small fish tank". Tho typically pretty tolerant of people's ignorance (I, myself kept a betta in 1.5 gal peace lily vase way back when thinking I was doing the right thing) I felt compelled to reply telling this guy that calling this thing a "fish tank" was very misleading to prospective buyers. Other than that I love Craigslist, and will continue looking for another betta home (no less than 2.5 gal), may end up getting few of those once I have the confidence that I know what I'm doing. I do wish I could -some day-get a nice, big aquarium... but afraid this will never happen so I'll just enjoy reading everyone's posts and the pictures of your tanks, aquascapes, fish and the critters. Have a great day!
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:46 AM   #4
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Yea, I like Craigslist. I have used it for years to buy and sometimes sell.

The 2 cichlids are still alive but the Jack seems to be having more difficulty. Starting to hide more then all of a sudden he justs starts swimming real fast around the tank. Sometimes hitting the sides or top. Then he settles back down.

The African seems to be handling the set up better. He will actually swim up and greet me when I walk up to the tank.

I leave the lights off most of the time. When I do turn them on it seem like it bothers the Jack for awhile then he is O.K. with it.

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Old 03-21-2013, 02:56 PM   #5
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Well, been over a week and the two "odd fellows" are still alive. Ammonia is at 1.5ppm. Nitrite is only/maybe slight. Hard to tell on the matching color scale. Been doing 8 gal. water changes every day.

They both have settled down to their own hiding place. Jack seems to be jumper than the African. So far no sign of disease.

Still trying to figure out what I`ll do with them if they make it. My grandkids are wanting me to keep the African. I am sure he will be alright by himself in the 29 gal after sharing it with the Jack for so long.

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Old 03-22-2013, 06:19 PM   #6
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The darting could be caused by benign or actual issues. Some fish are jumpy,so it's good he seems to have settled down.

I also love Craigslist and am an addict for a bargain! Last tank was a 29g Acrylic with 15g sump, LEDs, stand and crates of supplies for $150!

Before that a 55g acrylic with custom stand and basic accessories for $125!

Craigslist is my drug of choice, I can't even imagine buying a retail tank.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:20 AM   #7
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It`s a Peacock?

I think I have discovered that the African cichlid is a Aulonocara stuartgranti [Peacock] not a Labeotropheus fuelleborni (Chidunga]. Am I right?

Tank conditions have not changed. But, the two seem to be doing well. They eat very well. I make sure they eat what I put in the tank because rotting food will not help at all.

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Old 03-24-2013, 10:32 AM   #8
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Nice work, but I would have ran both filters at the same time. This way you still have some of your bb to help seed the new filter and just because they don't make media doesn't mean you can't use your own. And why would you change your filter media? I haven't had to change one of my ac hob sponges yet. And I've only added to my ehiem canister. Everyone says to wait until its falling apart but honestly I've never had one that bad.

When you moved the tank did you keep the filter media wet? And you might need to do water changes everyother day if the cycle is starting from scratch. Just keep an eye on your water parameters.
Best bet rehome the fish and start a fishless cycle and stock properly but those fish do not belong in a 29 more like a 55 atleast.
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Nice work, but I would have ran both filters at the same time. This way you still have some of your bb to help seed the new filter and just because they don't make media doesn't mean you can't use your own. And why would you change your filter media? I haven't had to change one of my ac hob sponges yet. And I've only added to my ehiem canister. Everyone says to wait until its falling apart but honestly I've never had one that bad.

When you moved the tank did you keep the filter media wet? And you might need to do water changes everyother day if the cycle is starting from scratch. Just keep an eye on your water parameters.
Best bet rehome the fish and start a fishless cycle and stock properly but those fish do not belong in a 29 more like a 55 atleast.
When my wife and I got to the home to pick up the 29 gal. it was already broken down. They were bringing it and stand out to the driveway. They loaded it up for us.

The filter media was in a sack with 2 or 3 plastic plants and 3 or 4 rocks. Also, a bottle of CichlidCode. In another sack was the filter, air pump, air bar and air line. The blue gravel in the tank was wet.

It was in the low 40`s outside and near dark. I was 27 miles from home and it was about a forty minute drive. I had decided that any bacteria was already dead. I put the two fish in a ten gallon for the night. Next day I cleaned and set up the 29.

I tried to use the filter that came with the tank. It was so nasty that it would not run. So I cleaned it. I tried to rinse out the media but it was still dirty and the water ran around and over it. And the noise was really bad.

I know the 29 is too small for the fish and I hope to re-home them at some point.

If I had it all to do over I would have done it different. You know "Hind Site Is 20/20"

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It has been over two weeks now since I set the 29 gal. back up with the two cichlids. They are still alive and have not gotten sick yet. So, maybe, they will make it. The ammonia is still high. I hope it peeks soon.

The Peacock has been digging a hole in the gravel all the way to the glass. And the Jack wants to claim it. Been some fights over the spot. What could be going on?

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