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Old 11-02-2013, 11:10 PM   #1
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Crazy invention idea

How about a fake fish that swims in a tank that you are doing a fishless cycle that changes colors and behavior to show your tank is cycled lol that way you don't have to look at empty tank
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:17 PM   #2
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Or you can take the red pill and go down the rabbit hole
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:24 PM   #3
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Lol that's how I did my tanks ... Shh don't tell
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:32 PM   #4
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Haven't you ever seen the jellyfish or lion fish you tie down. They look pretty real. I've heard the fish employees tell people they were being aggressive so they tied it down lol. Now you just have to have some material that reacts when a certain amount of beneficial bacteria is in the tank.
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:36 PM   #5
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Lol that's how I did my tanks ... Shh don't tell
That's how I did my tanks too. Don't be afraid to
admit it though, my LFS is as well. The couple who owns the place are sheer geniuses, as one is an MIT grad, and the other a salt and fresh water expert. Both are advocates of fish in cycles, and would never steer anyone in the hobby wrong.
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:37 PM   #6
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In fish is how I've always done my tanks, I never even heard of fish less till I was on here
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:39 PM   #7
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In fish is how I've always done my tanks, I never even heard of fish less till I was on here
Same here... Let me ask a question if I may. Does the BB die off if enough ammonia isn't present for it to convert?
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If deprived for to long it will die. Only enough beneficial bacteria will be present to breakdown a certain level. So if there isn't enough ammonia some will die, if there is a lot the population will grow. You get spikes when ammonia jumps quicker than the population can reproduce
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:50 PM   #9
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But what I never really understood about the fish less cycle was this... And correct me if I'm wrong. The fish less advocates say you need to dose ammonia to 4 ppm during the cycle, and as soon as it can convert that amount safely to nitrite then nitrate, you have cycled. BUT, once the cycle is done, wouldn't you realistically need a pretty heavy bio load to keep that amount of BB "alive"...? Seems silly to me to need levels that high, when after cycles its also recommended to slowly add fish, which wouldnt even come close to keeping the BB alive. And then if it dies off, you would need to re-cycle as more fish were added...? Am I way off on this, or is this why I took the red pill and never had any issues?
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I think it's a better safe than sorry with your colony. And I think it's more complex than throwing 4ppm in and waiting for it to be converted. There's water changes and testing and stuff I think....
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