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Old 10-17-2011, 02:18 PM   #1
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Criticism from 'experts'!

Is it me or is this forum getting worse by the day? All I'm seeing lately is criticism to beginners, if someone has a tank too small, all I hear is you need to get a bigger tank or your fish will be stressed and die, or is your tank cycled? I understand they could get stressed and die but whatever happened to constructive criticism? Tell the person the requirements of the fish, HELP them get better at this hobby not everyone is an expert I'm sure some of these 'experts' on here have made mistakes before so I don't think it gives these 'experts' any right to criticise. Rant over!
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I don't think of it as criticism. I think of it as tough love. If you sugarcoat things, fish will die because the severity of the situation won't necessarily be understood.

I have to admit, I haven't seen any downright rudeness. Maybe I'm just lucky.
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You are right!!

Its only that sometime, people tells you they have 10 goldfish in ten gal. And when some experience people come and tell you it takes a 77 gal. , its just the thruth!!

What, it would be better to let them go like that just to please them???
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Yeah but you don't have to patronise people. Which is what happens.

Where here to find info and I think that's the whole point of the website.

And why is the lfs the problem. And why is cycling such a bit part

I've cycled all three of my tanks and still fish die. I should just buy all the ready made bacteria and be done with it.

It's crazy.
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I've cycled all three of my tanks and still fish die. I should just buy all the ready made bacteria and be done with it.
There must be an issue if you've had the same bad experience with 3 tanks. Have you researched it?
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I don't think of it as criticism. I think of it as tough love. If you sugarcoat things, fish will die because the severity of the situation won't necessarily be understood.

I have to admit, I haven't seen any downright rudeness. Maybe I'm just lucky.
How is telling someone the requirements of the fish sugarcoating things? If you give constructive criticism then they would understand? And yeah you must be lucky lol.
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There must be an issue if you've had the same bad experience with 3 tanks. Have you researched it?
I have for every tank and more and more for each subsequent tank. And bot all the fish die it just some die for unknown reasons and I think it's down to this natural method people use.

Why are the "experts" so against new age chemical that make the job easier and more enjoyable. And also better for the fish.
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You are right!!

Its only that sometime, people tells you they have 10 goldfish in ten gal. And when some experience people come and tell you it takes a 77 gal. , its just the thruth!!

What, it would be better to let them go like that just to please them???
That's what people should be doing, that is letting the person know the requirements, which is what I said should be happening? I don't think u read the post properly.
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I've told many many people the requirements for a rainbow shark, having had one, and using my personal experience as a guideline for them. Still, right after I blow their minds by telling them that although I would recommend a 75 gallon, I rehomed mine to someone with 125 gallon tank, they say things like "oh, well mine seems really happy in my 10 gallon, so I'm just going to keep him, because I love him SO much".

That's when the tough love gloves come on.....
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I have for every tank and more and more for each subsequent tank. And bot all the fish die it just some die for unknown reasons and I think it's down to this natural method people use.

Why are the "experts" so against new age chemical that make the job easier and more enjoyable. And also better for the fish.
It's because they don't work.... It has to be your fault if your fish are dying left and right since no one else seems to be complaining about cycling a tank the right way.
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