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Old 06-29-2010, 03:33 PM   #21
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After looking around that website, I came across this:
BBC NEWS | UK | England | West Yorkshire | Scientists highlight fish 'intelligence'

That pretty much goes directly against what cabezon and rusilja said.
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:34 PM   #22
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fish have no thoughts, just reactions. They know you are the source of food. that's about it. The bigger the brain the more thinking that goes on. fish brains are just not big enough. I dont understand this two second rule, what are they remembering and forgetting?
They had to learn that we are the source of food. So if capable of learning that, what else might they be capable of learning?

They also learn who they should fear and who they can dominate in a fish tank as well.

They also seem to know where others territory is, and what is and is not food.

See what I am getting at? Its not as simple as saying something is so unless you have a Ph.D in Marine Biology as well as in Neurochemistry. I dont, and so far no one here has shown they do either. Id like things kept as their opinion rather than fact unless they can prove so. Any more than that and it becomes insulting to say that one person's views are wrong since YOU feel they are.

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Old 06-29-2010, 03:42 PM   #23
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Who knew this would be such a heated topic lol. I agree with mrg02d, Taylor and the others that think similarly. Brain size has little to do with it IMO. Think about rats and mice. They have been trained to do some pretty complex tasks.
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I have to disagree. There have been tests that have shown that fish can indeed "remember" things.

One test on Mythbusters they took goldfish in a tank and then put clear dividers in the tank with holes in it, large enough for the fish to swim through, at different levels. Sorta like a maze.

Then they put food on the other side of the dividers. After the goldfish successfully figured out where the holes were once, they would go right through those spots to get to the food in future trials, getting faster and faster. They learned the correct path and then remembered to take it. This isn't "muscle memory" but true memory.

A couple of other sources as well:
Do Fish Have Memories? | A Moment of Science - Indiana Public Media
Three-second memory myth: Fish can remember for up to five months | Mail Online
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So do they get bored then? LOL
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I have bettas and when a friend tries to feed them they flip out and hide.
Like dogs and people, though, some fish are smarter than others.
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If fish can be bored, then they must be able to have fun...
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Indeed they can. Mine love playing in the filter output stream. <-- What's that called?
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I have no idea but I know Alejandro loves to ride the bubbles from the air stone like a fishy roller coaster lol.
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I don't think so, fish have a memory of 2 seconds. It's like living for 2 seconds... How boring is that
They proved this wrong on mythbusters. They were able to train the fish to go through a maze of brightly colored rings at different heights to finally get food. It was really neat. I'd try looking on youtube for it, they might have some clips.
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