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Old 02-26-2014, 02:01 PM   #21
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I definitely understand where you're coming from. We have no definitive proof that fish/plants/more simple organisms can feel even basic emotions. But I suppose until we can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they don't, I'm open to the possibility. *shrugs*

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I definitely understand where you're coming from. We have no definitive proof that fish/plants/more simple organisms can feel even basic emotions. But I suppose until we can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they don't, I'm open to the possibility. *shrugs*

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Haha I agree. That is the basis of science. Nothing is ever 100% proved.
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I swear i had a black clown and white bubble anemone.,.the clown eat small pieces of flake food and take the big pieces to her buddy mr anemone...every day i see her doing this...the cleaner shrimp he can be just bored from cleaning fish from parasites then all the fish green damsels and the clown come in front of the cleaning station mr shrimp's rock then standing giving their sides for the shrimp that can be for 30 min of just begging the shrimp to help them ... I tried to drop some flakes over the clown.. I wasn't believing this the clown took the food by her mouth and drop on the shrimp eyes he ate it for sure in a sec..then believe or not i swear he began moving his claws near the fish that are waiting all that time..fish just moved to the claws and he begun cleaning all the 5 fish..and for the clown he gave her extra time bonus..
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I swear i had a black clown and white bubble anemone.,.the clown eat small pieces of flake food and take the big pieces to her buddy mr anemone...every day i see her doing this...the cleaner shrimp he can be just bored from cleaning fish from parasites then all the fish green damsels and the clown come in front of the cleaning station mr shrimp's rock then standing giving their sides for the shrimp that can be for 30 min of just begging the shrimp to help them ... I tried to drop some flakes over the clown.. I wasn't believing this the clown took the food by her mouth and drop on the shrimp eyes he ate it for sure in a sec..then believe or not i swear he began moving his claws near the fish that are waiting all that time..fish just moved to the claws and he begun cleaning all the 5 fish..and for the clown he gave her extra time bonus..
symbiosis! Gotta love nature.
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Very cool but that's still not emotion lol. That's commensalism, a type of symbiosis and is programmed in these animals.
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Closest to emotions in fish would be whales(mammals actually) and the way they act with their offspring, depressing as it sounds when a whale loses it's young to say.. A killer whale. It can be observed as almost grieving the loss.. Sad
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Closest to emotions in fish would be whales(mammals actually) and the way they act with their offspring, depressing as it sounds when a whale loses it's young to say.. A killer whale. It can be observed as almost grieving the loss.. Sad
I think we are forgetting about the notorious dolphins. They CAN express their feelings and communicate
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I think we are forgetting about the notorious dolphins. They CAN express their feelings and comunicate
true! They enjoy playing with their kill too!
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true! They enjoy playing with their kill too!
Yes they can let you know a lot if you train them. I'm open to the suggestion that fish are a lot more complex then we are thinking. Some more then others. Some can change color to show how they feel and others can't. That doesn't mean they aren't able to properly express themselves basically or show their emotions
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