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Old 02-27-2014, 11:28 PM   #31
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These are mammals being discussed now lol. Completely different than fish.
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These are mammals being discussed now lol. Completely different than fish.
Yes that's true but I'm comparing then to those of water dwellers haha. Just throwing it out there. Look at the cuttle fish
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Yes that's true but I'm comparing then to those of water dwellers haha. Just throwing it out there. Look at the cuttle fish
What about them?
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What about them?
Look at how they display their color and for different things. Has there really been enough testing done to determine fish truly don't have emotions?
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Those are social cues and ways to communicate not emotion. This thread is discussing fish being sad, happy, angry, etc. what you guys are arguing is basic behavior. Fish don't get sad when a mate dies, they aren't happy when they eat. They just do what they do because it is hard wired into their system or learned when young.
If you can show me a true example of a fish showing "human" emotion I will back down but nothing to that extent has been shown.
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Look at how they display their color and for different things. Has there really been enough testing done to determine fish truly don't have emotions?
No there hasn't but there's no tests saying they have it either.
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Look at how they display their color and for different things. Has there really been enough testing done to determine fish truly don't have emotions?
Well, cephalopods have very different brain structures from fish. When dealing with animals, I personally err on the side of caution about limiting their mental potential since many creatures have much more going on in their brains than they have previously (or presently) been given credit for. Fish have a pretty simple brain in comparison to many other creatures. You might be surprised at how much research has actually been done on the fish brain and fish behaviors. They are a more readily study-able organism than many. I have to day that overall, I agree that fish do not show any human-relatable emotions. They do show behaviors and reactions to their environment, but they do not have a part of the brain where higher emotions are processed. That said, I generally still refer to a healthy, active fish as "happy" because it is the easiest thing to say in the situation.
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Well, cephalopods have very different brain structures from fish. When dealing with animals, I personally err on the side of caution about limiting their mental potential since many creatures have much more going on in their brains than they have previously (or presently) been given credit for. Fish have a pretty simple brain in comparison to many other creatures. You might be surprised at how much research has actually been done on the fish brain and fish behaviors. They are a more readily study-able organism than many. I have to day that overall, I agree that fish do not show any human-relatable emotions. They do show behaviors and reactions to their environment, but they do not have a part of the brain where higher emotions are processed. That said, I generally still refer to a healthy, active fish as "happy" because it is the easiest thing to say in the situation.
I agree very much. To add many fish have complex social structures (african cichlids) and show high levels of intelligence. The argument here IMO is that the op is saying fish show humanly emotions which I don't see proof of in this thread. I'm enjoying the argument though. Good debate people
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I think the clown were loving the anemone not as a host only... But as a friend ..no body ever know what's in her head that moment but i think it had a bit emotional behavior..thank you guys for replying on my post..
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Below is a great book about animal emotions. I really enjoyed this book. It is excellent!!!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0385314280
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