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Old 11-02-2013, 12:04 AM   #61
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We can all chip in, buy a really big tank for all the fish and then euthanize the people the OP got them from......
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Old 11-02-2013, 12:45 AM   #62
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I think there's a lot of confusing concepts in this thread that need to be teased out. Namely, there's a lot of confusion regarding ethical vs pragmatic. Breeders cull mostly because it's pragmatic, not because it's necessarily ethical. Likewise, I think that in the OP's case, it's unquestionably unethical, but an argument can be made about the pragmatism.
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Old 11-02-2013, 01:05 AM   #63
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I don't see a problem with the OP euthanize by them. Here's how I see it-

If the OP doesn't take in the fish, the old owner may euthanize it in a way that the fish suffers. Or the OP can try to find them a home and if he can't he put them down in a quick painless way.
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:31 AM   #64
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Or the unwanted fish end up in a creek somewhere which doesn't help anyone.

Still, perhaps every tank sold should come with a little DVD on fish keeping or something. Maybe that would help a few.
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Old 11-02-2013, 04:20 AM   #65
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I think there's a lot of confusing concepts in this thread that need to be teased out. Namely, there's a lot of confusion regarding ethical vs pragmatic. Breeders cull mostly because it's pragmatic, not because it's necessarily ethical. Likewise, I think that in the OP's case, it's unquestionably unethical, but an argument can be made about the pragmatism.
Im sorry but I don't cull fry because im concerned about practical matter or guided by practical experience and observation. I do it because it's neccesarry to put out the best product. If I think I defect looks nice I will try and breed it out.
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Old 11-02-2013, 12:53 PM   #66
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Im sorry but I don't cull fry because im concerned about practical matter or guided by practical experience and observation. I do it because it's neccesarry to put out the best product. If I think I defect looks nice I will try and breed it out.
That's essential the definition of pragmatic.
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Old 11-03-2013, 10:59 AM   #67
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That's essential the definition of pragmatic.
Ita being guided by experience and practical rather then theory. Im not guided by anythibg, its a must and also, I cull to my own specifications. Not to what others put out. If my fry has a deffect that looks nice to me I will try and breed it out. In my eyes that's not following experience seeing as we are suppose to cull all bad genetics.
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Old 11-05-2013, 03:09 PM   #68
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Wow- I would've never have thought this topic would spark so much controversy.
Here's a little light on the matter:

*I would DEFINTELY prefer to give away fish than euthanize.
*At this moment, I'm not at full capacity, and need to do something about it. I was just asking a question on what was suggested to me by a local fellow fish keeper.
*I've only ever euthanized one fish that had its fins ripped off in a fight overnight. Correction- I didn't directly do it. Someone else did it for me. Clove oil and vodka followed by a snapping of the neck. Scarred me for life- never want to see or do that again if I can help it.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:28 PM   #69
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What kin of fis u got ? What would you charge for shipping to Ohio 44718
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:23 AM   #70
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Why would he snap its neck??
When I had to euthanize my comet I used Clive oil alone. The end was quick and (apparently) the fish suffered very little trauma. Can't say the same for me...
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