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Old 02-26-2015, 03:15 AM   #1
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I'm sure there are lots of different opinions on issues such as culling, euthanasia, etc., so this thread is meant for discussion about those more controversial topics.
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In the case of euthanasia, do you think the controversy is around whether or not to do it, or around how it should be done?

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I'm sure there are lots of different opinions on issues such as culling, euthanasia, etc., so this thread is meant for discussion about those more controversial topics.
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I'd be interested in how people deal with infected fish. Do they fight it to the end whatever the result or replace fish early? I don't think there is a right or wrong answer as every tank and situation is different and it also helps if you have the funds.

For myself, it varies. Most of the time I like to have a crack at getting a cure but there have been times I've replaced the fish.
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In the case of euthanasia, do you think the controversy is around whether or not to do it, or around how it should be done?



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Either one, but I think the controversy is mostly on how.
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I had a gourami with bloat I did everything in the book to save him. I couldn't watch him suffer anymore. He was on deaths doorstep . I then made an ice slush in the freezer and put him in it. As a Veterinary Technician for 14 years I have seen animals suffer and I have also euthanized quite a few. I figured in my eyes that was the best way after researching euthanasia in fish. I felt horrible because it's not like we have an injection so they go to sleep peacefully.

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I had a gourami with bloat I did everything in the book to save him. I couldn't watch him suffer anymore. He was on deaths doorstep . I then made an ice slush in the freezer and put him in it. As a Veterinary Technician for 14 years I have seen animals suffer and I have also euthanized quite a few. I figured in my eyes that was the best way after researching euthanasia in fish. I felt horrible because it's not like we have an injection so they go to sleep peacefully.

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We don't need an injection. The use of clove oil is an anesthetic that puts them to sleep and then eventually stops respiratory function letting them go peacefully in their sleep. I got a vial of it in a toothache remedy kit.
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I didn't have clove oil on hand at the time. I needed to do something asap he was dying.

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I don't think people should ever cull fry just because they have too many or don't look quite right, but if it's "necessary," would clove oil be the best way to do it?
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I don't think people should ever cull fry just because they have too many or don't look quite right, but if it's "necessary," would clove oil be the best way to do it?
Clove oil is the best way to euthanize imho.

As for the culls, what would we really do with all the fish made in breeding?

Take the fancy guppies for example. Each strain means thousands if not tens of thousands of guppies being made to develop a strain. What would we do with them all?
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If it's quick it's ok. (No details from me)
I always try and save a sick animal but sometimes. . . I put it out of its misery.
I will spend the time/money to try but there is a point when you can't carry on, some fish I've spent 20-30 times value on meds (small cheap fish, several attempts, gets expensive) if there is no improvement. Deal with it.

I cull fry, I do (or did) it because they can't be passed on. You get a bad reputation for a bucket full of deformed fish, good stock keeps people wanting. They are happy to snatch a bargain!
(Also can be used for feeders if you have the right fry and a piscivore.)

Platy bred exclusively for feeding my bichir, Cory bred to make fish tokens. I see it as a necessary process, you want fish that eat fish, you must feed them properly!
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