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Old 02-19-2005, 06:19 PM   #41
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So now that we've all agreed (( for the most part )) and.. we have taken the simple question of " will you sign the petition " to.. a drawn out conversation about science and theology... the fact still remains that revhtree has no excuse so I win!
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Old 02-19-2005, 06:21 PM   #42
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ROFLMBO!! Hit me like a ton of bricks!!


PS. Rach101....I know you are but what am I????? :P

PS. To keep this post on topic I will say this. I love you all no matter how you believe!!
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I believe its mainly just us going off topic... So right.. Love every and such, peace, love, happyness without the use of drugs and foreign objects, and every thing will be fine!
gotta go make sure my fish are okay before i raise temp (( ich ))

ps. Im a winner, so your a well... loser?!
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I kinda believe in both...
Think about it, if 1 human year is like 7 dog years. Then how many human years is in 1 God year?
I also believe that God created earth, but he added a little at a time. may have been one day to him, but it was many millions of years to the western calender.
*i have much more to say, but am shutting up to avoid any substance from hitting the fan*
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I believe that God spoke it, and BANG there it was!
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I am truely proud of all of you. 5 pages and not 1 "hateful" word or tone. My original post was just trying to get more people to sign the petition so that evolution if taught would be taught as theory. I didn't mean for this to become a debate on God vs evolution, however you have done it very nicely. . If everyone got along as much as we do the world would be a better place.
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two quick comments for my last thoughts on this.

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I will teach it, preach it, live it, walk it, talk it. I will not excuse it.
Amen! I respect greatly someones full spirit behind something. Be it their faith, their family, their career, anything. There is never a need to excuse it, nor should anyone ever ask you to excuse your faith and beliefs. But I do ask that you don't force your beliefs or faith upon me or my family. No one has that right.

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So then.... which one? The christian theory of creation I'm assuming? What about a Buddhist's? A Muslim's? An Indian's? To that degree, which nation? Seneca? Navaho? What of a Satanist's theory of creation? I would imagine it would have many similarities as the book of Genesis. However, I get the feeling those who are against the teaching of evolution would also not want anyone teaching a satanist's view on creation. I can't even begin to count how many I've missed in that list. If you're going to teach one theory of creationism, you have to teach them all (which I would NOT be against) But you have to be realistic. Given the number of religions in this world it is simply not feasible to expect a publicly funded school to dedicate that level of resources and time to teach them all.

Then why are we teaching the theory of evolution? The theory of Evolution is science. It is based on measurable, tangible evidence. Just like the theory of relativity. Should we not teach relativity becuase its only a theory? This is what seperates science from philosophy. Please don't take this the wrong way, and remember that I do believe in god. Philosophy can't be mandated in a publicly funded school. And to slap a sticker on a book to single out a single scientific theory is absurd. Why not put a sticker on the book stressing that the theory of relativity is only a theory. You don't have to because that's the definition of the word Theory.

The petition linked to on the first page is asking to make it OK to stress christian creationism in the classroom. (read more than just the page thats linked. The headline right now on the real homepage is accusing the UN of "developing massive rings of child rape and pornography ") I will NOT support any organization that makes such ignorant and blind accusations in an effort to promote a single religions agenda. Again, I ask that you not sign the petition and respect the FACT that there are more than just christians and athiasts in this country.


I'll go in a corner and breathe for a little while now.
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Agreed! ~ fans and gives a cup of water ~ Whoa there... breathe..
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I apologize if my comments seem heated. It was the viewing of the rest of the "reclaiming america" website i think has me steamed.

It's no more theirs than it is mine.

Everyone have a great weekend! I promise to be much more friendly on monday!!
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No winning against you Billy. I GRACEFULLY bow out.
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