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Old 08-24-2004, 05:23 PM   #61
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Actually I don't agree with everthing the the president is doing, in fact I think he can do more to fight terrorism, starting by closing our borders. But at least he is taking the fight to our enemy, our enemy now know its in a fight, not just the empty threats a previous administration issued when we were attacked.
Completely agree with you, Quarryshark.
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You guys are getting way too aggressive.. this is no longer a fun debate so count me out.
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Sorry it's not fun for you anymore, Atari... :|

Guess it isn't really fun for me, either- I'm just trying to show people that it's not always a good thing to jump on a bandwagon. For me, I was very interested in the movie when it first came out and intended to see it. Until I saw some of the clips and read some articles promoting it. Something didn't seem quite right, and now that I've looked into it and found all these deceptions, I KNOW it's not the right way to go. Nor do I agree wholly with George Bush. But I do know that I'm steering clear of the side that feels it must use fallacies to promote their agenda.
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Well I didn't thing that this was to agressive. More of a healthy discussion is all. You should see some of the conversations I have had on a forum dedicated to computer art. Talk about Liberal! But alot of those guys are living all over the world so it is interesting to get their take on the matter.

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You guys are getting way too aggressive.. this is no longer a fun debate so count me out.
Aw come on Atari. Wouldn't be the same without you.
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Quarryshark mentioned this site http://www.bowlingfortruth.com and the site I got the book from is www.grassfire.org. Glad you found it helpful, RocketSeason!
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Sorry.. the debate is fine, I guess I've just had a rough day so not really feeling up to it.

You guys sure are passionate about your politics though.. It's nothing like that over here in UK.
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We are also passionate about guns here. As Micheal Moore so humorously pointed out. :P
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I think we're passionate because this is a relatively new country with a new form of government. Everyone has their own ideas about how to make America work in the long run. And yes, you did have a rough day. How is your dad now?
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He's better thanks.. just put him to bed so I'm trying to get my own head straight now lol.
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