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Old 06-13-2005, 10:30 PM   #31
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RR quoted William Blackstone: "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

That sounds true for the truely innocent, except when the guilty 'innocent' hurts another person again when if they were in jail they wouldn't be able to do it again. I think it just goes to show that celebrities get off easier than the average joe. Think OJ, Robert Blake and who else????
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Old 06-13-2005, 10:39 PM   #32
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True, but you have to accept that and change from your "old ways"

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If a person is deemed a child molester wether he/she repents or not, all religions I know of will condem him/her and pretty much, 'ignore' them as a part of reality..
That's cause we are human, we are brought up holding grudges and keep on doing it even though we don't reliase it.

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If a priest or a Minister of religion commits such an offence and repents, all is forgiven.
Why is that?
That I don't understand either, but I'm not catholic either. To me if you commit that sin and are a "religous leader" then it should acutally be harder on you.

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but how come a minister of religion is seen as the "head of the flock"

he is supposed to be our guide, teacher, prop, shoulder to cry on, you name it. Very few actually qualify as "head of the flock"

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Why is that justified when 'God' condones any act of heirarchy.
ie. The Pope.

Again I don't understand the catholic religion. of most of the others either.

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I'm just wondering how all these things can be justified before God when he has specifically had it written as opposed to such.
The fact is God dosen't condone it, man does.

I did not make my comments to spur a religous debate, I will simply say this if I READ it in the bible (yea I know, a man translated it) the I will try and follow it. If a man says it and can't back it up with the afore mentioned Bible the I'll ignore it. If a man sins and truly repents (not just says he dows to get back in the "flock" then to me he is forgiven, (I may not be able to, but then again I am human).

Since I don;t want to be the reason this thread is locked I'll say no more.
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Old 06-13-2005, 10:45 PM   #33
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The fact that he would even releate to kids like that is wrong. Anyone with kids would tell you that if the neighbor guy kissed there son or tried to lay in bed with them there would be an old school butt kicking on the block. Why should michael jackson be any different. People just judge celebrities different and it is sad. I do think the family did set him up but the fact is he has a problem that cannot be helped with anythng but isolation from society.
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RR quoted William Blackstone: "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

That sounds true for the truely innocent, except when the guilty 'innocent' hurts another person again when if they were in jail they wouldn't be able to do it again. I think it just goes to show that celebrities get off easier than the average joe. Think OJ, Robert Blake and who else????
So...you would rather have 10 innocent men punished than one guilty man go free...well, unless it's you or yours that are wrongfully convicted....


I did not use the name Jesus Christ to start a religious debate, simply to show a point about the semantics of the "not guilty" vs "innocent". This is not a thread about religion or religious ideology, keep it on topic.
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Thats what is messed up with some of the religious things. The pope is chosen by man, and is a man, yet what he says is infoulable.

THAT is the answer to that, you cannot have a man at the top of things.
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Keep it on topic, if you want to discuss religion, take it to another thread.
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Actually Kevin, you were the one that went OFF topic in the first place. Even if you wernt meaning to start a religius debate, you knew it had to be coming.
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Actually, I didn't go off topic, I used a religious figure to demonstrate a point that was on topic. Now, this is the last warning, keep it on topic or watch this thread die.
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It probably isn't a very easy thing for the jurors to make a decision upon however when they were being interviewed it seemed that most of them were half in love with him. Or in particular a few of the women. Either way, I think that the jury was looking for a smoking gun. But really, all of the evidence was he said, she said. What else could it really be.
And another question I still have.. What kind of fan would send MJ a book like that?
Then again, its not the Defenses job to prove him innocent, just to prove that he isnt guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
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then move it to another thread. I would if I could. but i can't so i wont.
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