2) have you ever seen a fat vegan?
Yes I have. There is alot more to someones body shape than just the foods they consume.
2) have you ever seen a fat vegan?
2) have you ever seen a fat vegan?
I agree 100%. Waste is bad. But in a commercial sense, there really isn't much waste in the fishing industry (for consumption). Just about everything that is "tossed aside" as not human consumeable, is taken to processing plants and becomes feed. Fish food is 90% fish. Some cattle feed, IIRC, also has some fish byproducts. This is bones and all. A nasty site to see all the "bits" emulsified and pelitized. But it all gets used.1) The problem I have is overfishing and not using all you can out of the fish. ie shark fin soup, and the like if you kill it use it all.
Yes. One of my closest friends in fact.2) have you ever seen a fat vegan?
pipermurphy said:The problem I have is overfishing and not using all you can out of the fish.
ie shark fin soup, and the like if you kill it use it all.
I'd hate to turn this into a diet debate but I don't agree. The only reason it can be hard for someone is because it takes a little work to find and prepare food. People who aren't on any type of diet get used to packaged foods and fast food. A lot of people are too lazy to learn a new way of eating and don't want to give up their favorite foods. My wife and I are vegans at heart though we eat fish and occasionally some turkey... She is a very healthy weight and build... the rest of her family is close to if not completely obese. If we had not changed our diet she'd be in the same situation... Anyway, there are many more nutrients in stuff people don't even know about. Oatmeal for one has a lot of protien, I never knew that til I read the package... I could go on, but I wont...It is very hard to get all the right proteins, nutrients, and other stuff that your body needs to be very healthy as a vegitarian
fishfreek said:But if you put food in a loose covered box, I don't think they would have the intelligence to figure out how to open it to get the food.
octopi have been show to exhibit such intelligence. Of course the PETA documents dont say anything about octopi I dont belive.
There are some really neat vids online though of octopi getting food out of glass jars.
PETA has contributed tens of thousands of dollars to animal-rights activists who have been charged with or convicted of crimes.
Ingrid Newkirk is the head of PETA; she is nothing more that a extremist. Don't fall for her BS image of "saving the animals." This is the same woman who urged Yasser Arafat to spare animals in suicide bombings, but could care less about the humans that were being killed.
PETA members believe that animals should have the same rights as people.
PETA head, Ingrid Newkirk has stated that there is no moral difference between poultry farms and Nazi death camps.
PETA has stated repeatedly that their goal is "total animal liberation." This means no pets, no meat, no milk, no zoos, no circuses, no fishing, no leather, and no animal testing for lifesaving medicines.
PETA funds the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine 3, an animal-rights organization that presents itself as an unbiased source for nutritional information and has links to a violent animal-rights group called SHAC.
PETA has used their contributors’ tax-exempt donations to fund the North American Earth Liberation front, an FBI-certified “domestic terrorist” group responsible for fire bombs and death threats.
PETA cares more about chickens and other farm animals than they do about starving or sick children..
PETA regularly targets kids as early as elementary school with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda. They also operate a webpage which advocates to people to stop drinking all milk because its supposedly a health hazard!
PETA spends less than one percent of its $13 million budget actually caring for animals.
PETA has repeatedly attacked groups like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, for conducting animal testing to find cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases.
"I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow.” -PETA Vice President Bruce Friedrich
PeTA co-founder Ingrid Newkirk once said even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, "we'd be against it."
"Arson, property destruction, burglary and theft are 'acceptable crimes' when used for the animal cause." -Alex Pacheco, Director, PeTA
"We feel that animals have the same rights as retarded children." -Alex Pacheco, Director, PeTA,
"To those people who say, `My father is alive because of animal experimentation,' I say `Yeah, well, good for you. This dog died so your father could live.' Sorry, but I am just not behind that kind of trade off." -Bill Maher, PeTA celebrity spokesman
"Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughter houses." -Ingrid Newkirk, President, PeTA,
"The life of an ant and that of my child should be granted equal consideration." -Michael W. Fox, Vice President, The Human Society
Regan when asked which he would save, a dog or a baby, if a boat capsized in the ocean: "If it were a retarded baby and a bright dog, I'd save the dog." -Tom Regan
Poultry farms are horrid. I think the way chickens are treated is cruel to animals and people. And milk... well, I could go on about things but I feel most people wouldn't want to hear it and I wouldn't want to change the basic subject anyway...that there is no moral difference between poultry farms and Nazi death camps.
stop drinking all milk because its supposedly a health hazard!