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View Poll Results: Why do/did you think pH was so important?
Science class in school. 11 33.33%
The LFS you got your equipment/stock from 9 27.27%
Misleading websites 10 30.30%
What's a pH? I need some coffee! 3 9.09%
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Old 05-22-2011, 09:43 PM   #11
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This was my whole point. I totally see how it is important, but what I was getting at was why it seems that all who are new to the hobby have a pH test kit, and pH up and pH down. But, ammonia and nitrite seem to go on the backburner.
Exactly .... Well ... again from a science teacher stand-point ... how many of us really learned about the nitrogen cycle back in school? But ... I'll bet most of us knew about the dangers of mixing ammonia and bleach right ...?

pH is just more of a part of our upbringing than we consider .... so when new aquarium owners see pH products ... well the connection is made.
And yet, what about ammonia? Well isn't that just something used to clean toilets?

I agree, pH is way overstated for novice aquarists.
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Old 05-22-2011, 11:00 PM   #12
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I was messing with my pH because in my research on getting my Moors to breed (egg up?) most everything I found on the web said if I didn't get it down to 7.0, they'd never lay a single egg. During my testing to get a stable 7.0 pH (from 7.8), they laid about 300 eggs and I have 14 very healthy fry from it. Needless to say, I have about $50 in pH chems/junk I'll never use :P.
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pH is definitely important with sensitive inverts more so than elsewhere. However, I don't think measuring pH is at all necessary. I have never measured it, because chances are, if all of your parameters are within reason, your pH will be stable, too.

For freshwater especially, pH is really a non factor, because the fish are naturally going to experience a much larger swing in pH. pH "shock" is a much bigger problem for fish than having a pH 1 off of "ideal"
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Old 05-29-2011, 01:53 AM   #14
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I think with discus and all other fish really it's your hardness that is most important at the pet store I use to work for we couldn't keep angel fish alive Until I started using a ro mixed from the tap
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I think that more of the LFS should focus on the nitrogen cycle and KH. I have been in and out of the hobby for over 10 years and am just now starting to get the hang of understanding how everything (i.e. alkalinity, pH, macro and micro’s) all fall into place and work together.
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Old 07-03-2011, 12:29 PM   #16
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So glad to see this post! I was just pondering this last night. Our water has a pH of about 8.4 which I keep trying to lower with those expensive little fizzy tabs. Every time I do a PWC I have to add them, they cloud the water, although the fish find them entertaining to watch! All of my fish were happy and healthy before I started messing with the pH, which I started doing because of the test kit telling me it was high. I think I may stop wasting my money!
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