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Old 01-14-2016, 06:04 PM   #91
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Wait CB can you define for me what a sneaker male is?

Congrats on the eggs! Looking forward to seeing you raise them!
a sneaker male is a or the less dominant male in a tank with an alpha male he can't get away from...
Part of their natural defense is to not grow long flowing fins or color up as fast as the alpha.
This male? I believe was just past his sneaking prime and the alpha had recognized him.
Often in nature and while young the sneaker will fool the alpha and he will allow him into the nest where the sneaker either fertilizes or eats the other couples eggs.
Often a female will be the first to recognize him first....
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Ok makes sense. Thanks!
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Congrats!!! Are these your only apistos?
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Old 01-14-2016, 07:22 PM   #94
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Yes that is definitely a sneaker and if you have what look to be viable egg, then I would say you got the right female

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Congrats!!! Are these your only apistos?
These are my only species of apisto now.
I got 6 A.hongslio in total and these are 2 I pulled out of the 55g yesterday.


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Yes that is definitely a sneaker and if you have what look to be viable egg, then I would say you got the right female

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Thanks Gillie!
The other tank is so hard to see anything in...
I know it should pay off to make them happy ,but...
I am(AM) being very patient and methodical with my actions and crazy thoughts about these guys.

My LFS got these in as a special order for someone who never picked them up .
I grabbed them thinking they were less common??
I am interested in other species also...
My LFS just called tonight with 6 beckfordi pencil fish...
Are these what I want for dithers in the 55??
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OK finally saw all three females in the 55 with the alpha male.
I really was concerned that I pulled wrong female still and that she was hiding in the corner or wherever....
Not the case!
2 in the coco pot liner,at least one set of eggs I see that may become wigglers today ,and the third female in a half pot just infront of the other 2 girls spot with eggs on the roof of the pot!
Sooo
all in all I have 3 sets of Apisto hongslio eggs now!!

The breeder in me really wants to pull fry /eggs but being these fish are young and small I would rather they develop a strong parenting skills then get a couple of fry(hope I don't regret this??)!
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Woohoo, lucky you! I'm still waiting for my Panduros do get going... I have them in a 10gal, low ph, lots of IAL, and TC pots..... I've heard they can be picky about mates?


What did you condition yours on, food wise?

Since you have 3 spawns, I personally would take one of them..... But you do have a point.....
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Woohoo, lucky you! I'm still waiting for my Panduros do get going... I have them in a 10gal, low ph, lots of IAL, and TC pots..... I've heard they can be picky about mates?


What did you condition yours on, food wise?

Since you have 3 spawns, I personally would take one of them..... But you do have a point.....
When I had a pair of panduro in a 10 they didn't even pay much attention to each other. I moved them to a 20l and they were spawning within a couple days.

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I offer a LARGE variety of foods.
Frozen; Brine,mysis,bloodworms and cyclops.
Flake; Kens bloodworm,earthworm,and blackworm.
NLS grow(small sinking).

They seem like my GBR in that they may spit it out but eventually come back to it ,all food is gone when come home from work...

I feed my breeders (all) like fry in that I will feed them as much as they can eat daily...Multiple feedings....
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So you think they need more space? It just a change of scenery?

I actually do have a 20long that's running empty, was going to have an endler breeding tank, but that didn't work, so it's empty.....
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