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Old 12-06-2013, 04:59 PM   #5481
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Thats the corals in the 37g, the 60 will probably cost 2000$ alone on the corals, when i got the tank it came with some aqualight por metal halides which cost 700$ lol, but i got the tank and the lights for 250$ the brains are still in the bucket waiting to go into the 20 long, i would like to set up a rimless frag tank with just a little clownfish or somthin.
It's nice to get a good deal on the tank and lights when everything that goes into the tank gets costly. I need to move closer to major cities to find some good deals. I see them on Gumtree but it's usually a weekends worth of driving to get them. When i have the cash on hand i might have to plan a week off and head to Sydney or Brisbane for a buying spree. I have seen four tanks sold locally in the last month and three of them were from one person who is heading overseas. They just sold a very nice 6 foot setup for $500 that i wish i'd had the cash for.
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:07 PM   #5482
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It's nice to get a good deal on the tank and lights when everything that goes into the tank gets costly. I need to move closer to major cities to find some good deals. I see them on Gumtree but it's usually a weekends worth of driving to get them. When i have the cash on hand i might have to plan a week off and head to Sydney or Brisbane for a buying spree. I have seen four tanks sold locally in the last month and three of them were from one person who is heading overseas. They just sold a very nice 6 foot setup for $500 that i wish i'd had the cash for.
Yeah its fun to get a good deal on the tank and lights, but when i think about it this is gonna be expensive. 150$ on a skimmer, 100$ on a return pump, already spent 60$ on dry rock, and thats only 30lbs but then 30 more of live and thats 150$, and all the other supplies can be estimated at 600-700$. So another grand for corals and their need is like 3 grand. You would think you could get a blue tang when spending that much but i guess it costs 5+ to have a tank of that size.
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:51 PM   #5483
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Nice find on those tanks, i dont really understand why people QT corals, i mean who is that crazy? (no offence if you do) its just over-doing it IMO.

Hope your reef turns out good, What powerheads are you gonna use? I love the hydor koralias because you can change the flow in any direction you want and they arent ugly like maxi-jets and what not.
I was going to change the light and water gradually. Don't worry I'm a fruitcake (crazy person)! Qt will be set to store level, small daily changes with my water to convert to my type.
I read sudden light changes can kill or seriously harm coral. I'll have a brand new led rig on the system tank. I was thinking when the tank is set at a brightness I could adjust from the store brightness to my brightness, also I could spend time observing the specimen and see how/when/what it feeds etc. that's what I did with my fish, I got some really interesting results with fish, eating habits especially useful, time/amounts/types/frequency. Useful data, some fish are totally different to other ones. I guess coral will have the same differences, sweeper tentacle length may be worth observing.

Not sure on wave fan/powerheads. I found a nice wireless set that work from one controller with independent settings, mega money but could be ideal.
I'm not so concerned with looks, if it works well, it works for me. I think that hydor do the smart wave, that is something I have considered, it is on the short list. I've seen an interesting DIY thing that uses lawn sprinklers and the return pump, I may do that I'm not sure yet.

I hope it works too! We are on the same team!
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I was going to change the light and water gradually. Don't worry I'm a fruitcake (crazy person)! Qt will be set to store level, small daily changes with my water to convert to my type.
I read sudden light changes can kill or seriously harm coral. I'll have a brand new led rig on the system tank. I was thinking when the tank is set at a brightness I could adjust from the store brightness to my brightness, also I could spend time observing the specimen and see how/when/what it feeds etc. that's what I did with my fish, I got some really interesting results with fish, eating habits especially useful, time/amounts/types/frequency. Useful data, some fish are totally different to other ones. I guess coral will have the same differences, sweeper tentacle length may be worth observing.

Not sure on wave fan/powerheads. I found a nice wireless set that work from one controller with independent settings, mega money but could be ideal.
I'm not so concerned with looks, if it works well, it works for me. I think that hydor do the smart wave, that is something I have considered, it is on the short list. I've seen an interesting DIY thing that uses lawn sprinklers and the return pump, I may do that I'm not sure yet.

I hope it works too! We are on the same team!
Yeah sudden changes of light can bleach the corals so i wouldnt change them.
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First of all thank you, my fish are my pride and joy.
You have great diversity. It must be a big issue deciding what you want to watch. I have 2 Comets in separate 20g's at present and i feed in different sessions so i get to watch them both munch away.

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It sounds like you have a good plan in place. I know nothing about the fish species or corals yet so i guess i'll have to google some of them. I'm guessing P. Diddy going in this tank when both he and the tank are ready?

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Building tanks is easy enough, you are right, those prices are so low the back panel would cost as much as the whole tank.
How is the Brutus build going?
At the moment i have most of my wood measured/marked out (done after work). I'll run my plans by grandpa today though and see if they meet his standards before doing my cutting. I'll see if he wants to get involved.

I think i'll redo the tank myself. I have a recycled piece of glass being cut on Monday or Tuesday. I have a 310g tube of aquarium safe silicone. Not sure if that is enough but i'll probably get another tube today to be safe. Should be about 17 feet of silicone required for the ends of the tank and lid support i will re-attach. I will leave the glass attaching the top brace on and the three intact side lid supports attached. I'll feel more confident knowing everything that holds water has fresh silicone applied. I'm using Selleys "glass"

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Went to the lfs, got a koralia 425 powerhead for the 20 long, two 20lb bags of live sand for the 60 cube, and a hydrometer for the 20 long. 105$ all together.
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You have great diversity. It must be a big issue deciding what you want to watch. I have 2 Comets in separate 20g's at present and i feed in different sessions so i get to watch them both munch away.

It sounds like you have a good plan in place. I know nothing about the fish species or corals yet so i guess i'll have to google some of them. I'm guessing P. Diddy going in this tank when both he and the tank are ready?

At the moment i have most of my wood measured/marked out (done after work). I'll run my plans by grandpa today though and see if they meet his standards before doing my cutting. I'll see if he wants to get involved.

I think i'll redo the tank myself. I have a recycled piece of glass being cut on Monday or Tuesday. I have a 310g tube of aquarium safe silicone. Not sure if that is enough but i'll probably get another tube today to be safe. Should be about 17 feet of silicone required for the ends of the tank and lid support i will re-attach. I will leave the glass attaching the top brace on and the three intact side lid supports attached. I'll feel more confident knowing everything that holds water has fresh silicone applied. I'm using Selleys "glass"

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P.diddy has his own home, he will remain there forever. He is low end brackish (saline but much lower than marine by about 80% salt per litre)
Sometimes I enjoy watching the various fish, I'm sort of lucky, the planted tank is best at lights on, the clowns are best at lights off, p.diddy is always good but it's really fun watching him eat.

Like you I feed different sessions according to fish habit.

I remembered about your thread, duh, yes I posted there after my last post here.
Some strange reason tells me uncle gramps is the man? A lifetime of building.

There is nothing like piece of mind where large volumes of water and livestock are concerned, especially when it involves DIY!
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Did your salt dissolve yet?
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Did your salt dissolve yet?
No i havemt put it in yet, it will go in tommarow. Found a bunch small white shrimp swimming around the back wall and corals. Dont know what they are but also found some wierd slugs in the tank aswell.
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No i havemt put it in yet, it will go in tommarow. Found a bunch small white shrimp swimming around the back wall and corals. Dont know what they are but also found some wierd slugs in the tank aswell.
Weird slugs,
They might be nudibranchs! Could be cool. Vibrant colours. Post a pic.
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