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Old 11-16-2011, 06:20 PM   #11
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What is dishonest about it? Granted, it's not the best line in the world, but I don't see how it's being dishonest.
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I virtually agree. It nearly makes sense.
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Old 11-16-2011, 06:39 PM   #13
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What is dishonest about it? Granted, it's not the best line in the world, but I don't see how it's being dishonest.
Show me the math that meets the 55% claim, and I take it back.
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You are certainly welcome to post the math to prove otherwise. It seems as if you're the one trying to convince everyone that it's false
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assume equal height of 10" (could be anything)

6" square = 360 sq "
3" radius circle sitting completely inside = 282 " , 78% or 28% more for the square.

That is short of 35% but perhaps they can find some other magic to make it up.

55%. Sorry, they or you are going to have to show me. Its a lie.
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It could amount to different heights used vs circular competitors in the same product market. Who knows. Either way, the concept is mathematically sound. Unless someone is going to take a Fluval from every line, and get an example of its direct competitors which are circular and produce roughly the same GPH rating, and directly measure the volumes for all examples involved, "proving" its not a lie isnt going to happen.

EDIT: I am referencing internal dimensions here, as external dimensions are clearly stated to be identical by Fluval. Perhaps the "trickery" is some sort of design which allows to maximize useable internal volume?
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It could amount to different heights used vs circular competitors in the same product market. Who knows. Either way, the concept is mathematically sound. Unless someone is going to take a Fluval from every line, and get an example of its direct competitors which are circular and produce roughly the same GPH rating, and directly measure the volumes for all examples involved, "proving" its not a lie isnt going to happen.
Exactly, any more then proving it is a lie. Very difficult to prove negatives.
BTW they are not making the comparison to any real competitive product, only hypothetical ones that could exit if they were the same 'outside dimensions'.

If they actually had a media area advantage over competitive products, I would think they would just state that.

Anyway, its is really not about short comings or advantages of the product, only the slick marketing words used to try and sell it.

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Yeah, if this mythical competitive product had 1/2 inch thick walls, perhaps it could get there. And my truck can go 180 mph too (with 120 mph wind behind it), wanna buy it?
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