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Old 09-03-2015, 06:52 PM   #31
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Well, i think its because a lot of people are told by the people higher up to say that, so they can sell a bit more...


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Mostly a myth, with some exceptions: you should add chemicals to get the "perfect" pH for your fish.
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Old 09-03-2015, 07:12 PM   #34
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Nutrients cause algae.......... THEY DONT!


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Actually, they don't. They FEED the algae but do not CAUSE the algae. Algae spores are everywhere in the water ( fresh, salt, tap, well, ocean, land) and just need the proper environment for them to grow into the wonderful colored messes we all hate. ( Grrrr) So I think Sk3lly gets this one because of the word "cause".
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Mostly a myth, with some exceptions: you should add chemicals to get the "perfect" pH for your fish.


"Chasing the perfect pH"....
This without much exception has to confuse most new keepers IMO.
Once you understand water chemistry ph is not what you will chase any ways!
Almost every fish sold at a pet whatever will do fine in your own source water with less issue then the temp you keep your tank.
The temp you keep tropical is all the same basically anyways right?
Fortunately many have the knowledge to explain the proper way to get "unruly" water in line but it is not through the stuff the LFS sells to change ph!!
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"Chasing the perfect pH"....
This without much exception has to confuse most new keepers IMO.
Once you understand water chemistry ph is not what you will chase any ways!
Almost every fish sold at a pet whatever will do fine in your own source water with less issue then the temp you keep your tank.
The temp you keep tropical is all the same basically anyways right?
Fortunately many have the knowledge to explain the proper way to get "unruly" water in line but it is not through the stuff the LFS sells to change ph!!
Yes ph is completely irrelevant anyway. Tds is king!

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Yes ph is completely irrelevant anyway. Tds is king!

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Maybe more of a combination of TDS, GH and KH. You can technically have a high TDS and a high GH but if your KH is too low you're gonna have a real bad time.
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^This^

Lets not just answer,lets discuss what the real deal is.
Some myths ,like many facts can have an exception.
The inch per gallon is pretty good if you are keeping neons,or cardinals.
10 neons in 10g,not best,not worst IMO.
10" Oscar in a 10g?

Lets discuss why the myth exist,or the misunderstanding behind them?

I have wondered where this came from. I think aqadvisor or some other site gives a bit of detail of the history which I found fascinating.

I get it to work in my DT however it is modified. I couldn't even really explain how I modify it because as pointed out above, there's body shape, etc, etc to consider. One that I did like about it was that it was (most of the time) including finage but importantly was adult size. I have dim recollection of that being explained to me that 'yes, fish do really grow and thus, no more goldfish for you (unless we can interest you in a second tank)'.

Here in Australia I rarely see this rule or guideline pop up now (maybe the metric conversion doesn't work so well ). I've never read it within an aquarium book for some time.

However misinformation on way to high goldfish stocking rates by something like every 5 gallons is still out there. Actually come to think of it - most books I have read, skip stocking rates completely (will have to double-check that).
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Here in Australia I rarely see this rule or guideline pop up now (maybe the metric conversion doesn't work so well ). I've never read it within an aquarium book for some time.
I overheard a woman say it in petsmart yesterday and I gave her a biology lesson.... whoops (My wife wasn't there to stop me from trying to lecture people like she usually does...)
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Yeah sw isn't to bad. Just expensive. I'd rather mix saltwater and test more often than gravel vac and deal with plants . Ugh plants...


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