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Old 03-16-2013, 08:37 PM   #31
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Ok I'm gonna take a shot here....

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


If your tank is empty and running, meaning filter, heater, lights whatever. Your beneficial bacteria will die off if there isn't any ammonia source.

You need to add an ammonia source to start the cycle. Or you can do a fish in cycle.

I cycled my 55 gallon cichlid tank with fish in. It can be done if you test often and are willing to do water changes often.

Your ammonia is 0 because you have no source of ammonia in your tank.

Please can you give more informative answers so we can help you along. It would benefit is both if your posts have more substance to them.

It's hard for is to answer and help if we really don't know what the bottom line is.

Size tank?
Filtration?
Stocked or not?
What are your goals?

Please try and answer the questions.


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EDIT: just saw Mummas post. So I'm correct about the BB(beneficial bacteria)
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Old 03-16-2013, 10:18 PM   #32
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The size is 30 gallons. Filtration API nexx canister filter. No stock
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My goal is to cycle and get fish in the tank
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:58 AM   #34
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30 gal won't cut it for pseudotropheus crabro (bumblebee) maybe if you kept it alone but it would be miserable. I have heard of pairs doing ok in a 55 but even still they do better with more females. Again your not really answering people's questions nor are you paying attention to people's advice. It seems your previous stock died of nitrate poisioning. This means your tank was in the process of cycling but couldn't breakdown nitrates fast enough ie not enough bio. You need to establish a proper biological filter in order to keep ammonia and nitrites at zero and nitrates at a trace. If you had 15 cichlids in the tank before than naturally your ammonia nitrite and nitrates wood be through the roof. Far to overstocked of am aquarium. What kind of fish were in your last set of stock before the bublebee.
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With such a small tank you might be better off steering clear of the cichlids, IMO. Why dont you try getting a few neon tetras, or platys? If you got any questions feel free to ask.
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30 gal won't cut it for pseudotropheus crabro (bumblebee) maybe if you kept it alone but it would be miserable. I have heard of pairs doing ok in a 55 but even still they do better with more females. Again your not really answering people's questions nor are you paying attention to people's advice. It seems your previous stock died of nitrate poisioning. This means your tank was in the process of cycling but couldn't breakdown nitrates fast enough ie not enough bio. You need to establish a proper biological filter in order to keep ammonia and nitrites at zero and nitrates at a trace. If you had 15 cichlids in the tank before than naturally your ammonia nitrite and nitrates wood be through the roof. Far to overstocked of am aquarium. What kind of fish were in your last set of stock before the bublebee.
Sorry congo do you mean ammonia poisoning? Nitrates cant be broken down by bacteria. I agree with your statement about the bumbles. 55 minimum. We keep fish for our enjoyment but it should be shared 50/50 to benifit you and your fish, my satisfaction comes more from creating a happy and healthy tank for the inhabitants. Its more important than anything and feel its a duty as their man God. The power of controlling their life in that way is the real beauty behind fish keeping. You can keep bumbles in a 30g if you want Josh but let it be on your conscience and not mine. Again people are all built and think differently and your way of thinking maybe different to mine.
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Sorry congo do you mean ammonia poisoning? Nitrates cant be broken down by bacteria. I agree with your statement about the bumbles. 55 minimum. We keep fish for our enjoyment but it should be shared 50/50 to benifit you and your fish, my satisfaction comes more from creating a happy and healthy tank for the inhabitants. Its more important than anything and feel its a duty as their man God. The power of controlling their life in that way is the real beauty behind fish keeping. You can keep bumbles in a 30g if you want Josh but let it be on your conscience and not mine. Again people are all built and think differently and your way of thinking maybe different to mine.
Yes I meant ammonia poisoning thanks for clarifying don't want to confuse this poor kid any more lol... As far as everything else I completly agree its for your enjoyment we can only advise you on what we all would do personally. Ultimately it's your decision and your money.
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Not hardy
Why do you say this? Platys along with all your other live bearers are some o the hardiest aquarium species in the hobby. Neons are also extremely hardy. Have you kept either before.
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People are trying to help you, just because its not what you want to hear doesn't mean you should be giving such short responses.

I'm sorry you don't have a tank of an appropriate size, since it sounds like this is your first fish tank perhaps you really should consider neons or platys. Cichlids are not hardy like you think, many species require very good conditions and any deviation could kill them all off.
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