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Old 10-06-2016, 12:16 PM   #1
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Should I invest in a co2 system? I've got a beta and a couple coral tetras, one cory, one bamboo shrimp, two apple snails. I have some simple easy to grow plants... they are low light plants but I have good lighting for them... Just planted in some gravel. I have the flourish liquid co2 and iron and the comprehensive care nutrients. It's only a 10 gallon, but I want to do more with more plants. I just have to do a little at a time. So I'm debating on co2 regulator, and what size would be best? What would last the longest? How long to they normally last? Where do you get the tank refilled or do you just get a new one? What do you do with the old bottle? Set up I can you tube... but should I or should I? And should I rework the substrate? The tank always seems just a bit cloudy with the liquid ferts... can anyone help?

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Old 10-06-2016, 02:48 PM   #2
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Should I invest in a co2 system? I've got a beta and a couple coral tetras, one cory, one bamboo shrimp, two apple snails. I have some simple easy to grow plants... they are low light plants but I have good lighting for them... Just planted in some gravel. I have the flourish liquid co2 and iron and the comprehensive care nutrients. It's only a 10 gallon, but I want to do more with more plants. I just have to do a little at a time. So I'm debating on co2 regulator, and what size would be best? What would last the longest? How long to they normally last? Where do you get the tank refilled or do you just get a new one? What do you do with the old bottle? Set up I can you tube... but should I or should I? And should I rework the substrate? The tank always seems just a bit cloudy with the liquid ferts... can anyone help?

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Hi Tracey.

Plants will grow fine in just gravel as long as they have light, co2 and ferts.

If I was to cut to the chase I would say trail your system. Flourish excel may allow you to try many different plants without having to set up a co2 system.

You have everything you need to make a good go of your setup.

Do you know what you lighting is? If your lighting is too strong you may run in to problems using flourish excel only.

What are your plants?

For a co2 system you buy a bottle such as a paintball cylinder or fire extinguisher or soda stream and get them refilled when they run out. How long they last depends on many factors such as how strong your lighting is, how big your tank is, how many plants you have, how big the bottle is etc.


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I use led lights by elive. They have the click in light rails... I've got two pods red and blue and two pods for grow light and two pods that are just regular florescent. They are small pods only for led dots on each pod. The plants are all small but showing new growth. Two sword plants and well one banana plant that is spindly. And I don't know what the others are. I attached a pic for you. It's about week old and I've done some reArrangements with the last water change.

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I think one is wisteria. Best and clearest the tank has been since I set it up. Will be forced to get an algae water though. It's getting that clearish film of algae on it. Probably need a sponge to clean it up some.

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Also I have a 3g tank that started me on this whole adventure. Oddly enough I've never had any problems with it. Just a beta and a cory with one apple snail and of course also live plants. Only problem I had was the original filter kept sucking up the beta so I did a simple carbon filter with a peace Lilly in it and then I just put an air stone under it.

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I use led lights by elive. They have the click in light rails... I've got two pods red and blue and two pods for grow light and two pods that are just regular florescent. They are small pods only for led dots on each pod. The plants are all small but showing new growth. Two sword plants and well one banana plant that is spindly. And I don't know what the others are. I attached a pic for you. It's about week old and I've done some reArrangements with the last water change.

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Just see how you get on with liquid co2. If you still have problems we can take it from there.

Edit: dose the excel daily.

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Ok I will thanks.

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Ok I will thanks.

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Oh I meant to say the Java fern and Anubias have rhizomes and ideally should be tied to a rock or wood using string, cotton or fishing line.

The information widely spread is that the rhizome will rot if placed under the substrate.


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I'll fix it asap!

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Ok so I did this... is this the java fern and anubias you said to uproot from the gravel and tie or weigh down with a rock or something? I had to Google them to see which plants you were referring too. I think I hope I got them right. Oh and I didn't know wisteria could do a carpet thing... So now I know that. Yeay!

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