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Old 10-21-2014, 03:05 PM   #1
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Ok so my 29 gallon had 2 fish in it that I gave away yesterday, and i went out to buy new substrate. I emptied the tank of 99.9% of the water, removed all gravel, placed all decorations and HOB filter in a tub half full with old water. A small aerator is in tub to keep any BB alive.
Plan for today is rinse FloraMax and add it tk the tank with some old and some fresh water.

Will i have to re-cycle the tank? I havr the gravel still but didn't put it in water.

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Will i have to re-cycle the tank? I havr the gravel still but didn't put it in water.
It certainly won't hurt to put some of your old gravel in a mesh bag and leave it in the tank for a while, but really your filter should be fine. Just don't add too many fish at once. You said you had only 2 fish in there previously, so keep in mind that at first you shouldn't any larger of a bioload than your 2 fish produced.
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Ok, i might take a pound or so of the old gravel and add it to the tank.

Stocking plan is below

Should i completely clean the tank so it looks brand new, or leave the algae and little bit of water in it?

For quickly rinsing the flora, add 1 bag to a pillow case and run water over it before adding to tank?

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It's up to you how clean you want it, but if you do clean it, don't use soap or windex or anything. You can use vinegar or even just water and a scrubbing pad.

Flora max can take a long time to rinse completely. Some people like to use a pillowcase, but I would just put half a bag at a time in a 5 gallon bucket and use a hose to run water until it looks clear.
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Ok, I might just use a scrubbing pad on the heavy algae once I have water back in the tank.

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the BB need a source of ammonia to keep them alive...an aerator alone will not do that. even if you immediately added the new fish stock, the living BB could only support the same level of ammonia your previous fish were supplying...and that is if you restocked immediately. i am not sure exactly how long your BB can survive with no source of ammonia. my guess would be maybe 2 days. restock very soon, and do it slowly as to not overwhelm your BB colony...if it is even existent. you may have to start over.
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the BB need a source of ammonia to keep them alive...an aerator alone will not do that. even if you immediately added the new fish stock, the living BB could only support the same level of ammonia your previous fish were supplying...and that is if you restocked immediately. i am not sure exactly how long your BB can survive with no source of ammonia. my guess would be maybe 2 days. restock very soon, and do it slowly as to not overwhelm your BB colony...if it is even existent. you may have to start over.
Ok guess i am going to re-cycle fully. Going out of town tomorrow amd won't be back to add fish until Monday at the earliest. Any recommendations of the stock i have that could be used for a fish-in cycle?

Edit: Could i use the fish food as an ammonia source until i can get fish in the tank?

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i wouldnt recommend any of the fish you suggested for a fish-in cycle. what i would suggest is that you ask somebody close by that has an established tank to clip some seeded media for you, and then stick it into your filter. you may even ask a small fish store to provide you with some bacteria. then start very slowly, perhaps 2 or 3 fish to begin, likely the black skirts...then add one or two every other week until you reach your final stocking.

fish food can be used as a source of ammonia, but it is difficult to regulate and i have zero idea of how much you would need or how effective it would be.

seeded media is really where it is at, if you can get a hold of some.
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somebody around you does...either call a few different fish stores, or maybe post an ad on CL or the regional forum asking for some BB. it makes life a whole lot easier. aside from that, i will defer to others for further advice. good luck.
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