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Old 08-17-2017, 01:54 PM   #1
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Hi there! Iím brand new to the online community and just set up my tall, freshwater 20 gallon tank yesterday (8/16). This is my very first time cycling a tank, not to mention itís also my very first planted tank. I have several questions that I would love some advice on:

1. Are daily water parameter checks frequent enough?

2. How do I go about interpreting my water parameter results? Iíve found contradicting information from various threads regarding acceptable ranges. Here were my results at 11:30a today (8/17):Ammonia: 4.0 ppm
Nitrite: 0.0 ppm
Nitrate: 0.0 ppm
Phosphate: 0.5 ppm
pH: 7.6
High pH: 7.4
KH: 53.7 ppmGH: 143.2 ppm

3. How do I know when to do water changes?

4. I am currently following Seachemís planted aquarium dosing chart (http://www.seachem.com/downloads/cha...Dose-Chart.pdf). I completed the dosing for Day 1 (Flourish, Flourish Excel, Flourish Phosphorous, Flourish Nitrogen) in addition to adding Stability and Prime. Is this an OK guide to follow?

Livestock:
- 1 Anubias lanceolata
- 1 Anubias afzelli
- 1 other unidentified Anubias
All are planted in Seachem Fluorite Black.

Equipment:
- Finnex Planted+ 24/7 SE Fully Automated LED Light
- Eheim Jšger Aquarium Thermostat Heater (75W)
- Fluval 106 External Canister Filter

I know thereís a lot of information, but Iíve been researching and planning all summer so that I can have a healthy, successful tank.

Any other bits of advice or tips would be greatly appreciated. Iíll make sure to add daily parameter / picture updates as well.

Thank you guys!
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:23 AM   #2
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Hi there! Iím brand new to the online community and just set up my tall, freshwater 20 gallon tank yesterday (8/16). This is my very first time cycling a tank, not to mention itís also my very first planted tank. I have several questions that I would love some advice on:



1. Are daily water parameter checks frequent enough?



2. How do I go about interpreting my water parameter results? Iíve found contradicting information from various threads regarding acceptable ranges. Here were my results at 11:30a today (8/17):
Ammonia: 4.0 ppm
Nitrite: 0.0 ppm

Nitrate: 0.0 ppm
Phosphate: 0.5 ppm
pH: 7.6

High pH: 7.4
KH: 53.7 ppm
GH: 143.2 ppm



3. How do I know when to do water changes?



4. I am currently following Seachemís planted aquarium dosing chart (http://www.seachem.com/downloads/cha...Dose-Chart.pdf). I completed the dosing for Day 1 (Flourish, Flourish Excel, Flourish Phosphorous, Flourish Nitrogen) in addition to adding Stability and Prime. Is this an OK guide to follow?



Livestock:

- 1 Anubias lanceolata

- 1 Anubias afzelli

- 1 other unidentified Anubias

All are planted in Seachem Fluorite Black.



Equipment:

- Finnex Planted+ 24/7 SE Fully Automated LED Light

- Eheim Jšger Aquarium Thermostat Heater (75W)

- Fluval 106 External Canister Filter



I know thereís a lot of information, but Iíve been researching and planning all summer so that I can have a healthy, successful tank.



Any other bits of advice or tips would be greatly appreciated. Iíll make sure to add daily parameter / picture updates as well.



Thank you guys!


Welcome to AA seeing your doing a fishless cycle you should be able to do 25% changes weekly. You want to wait for the ammonia to turn to nitrite and then the nitrite will turn to nitrate once you start getting some BB growing in the filter don't let the ammonia get too high, I'd try and keep it around 2ppm and water change if it gets too high.

Good starter plants not sure if you know but anubias should be attached to driftwood and rocks and not buried in substrate. Make sure the rhizome (base of the plant) is not buried at all or the plant will rot and die


The seachem line will be perfect for low tech plants like yours, you could also grow plants like,
Java fern of all varietys
Hygrophila's
Crypt's of all varietys
Mosses
Bacopa
Dwarf sag
Vals (these don't like excel)

And that's just a few to get you started

Hope this helps and goodluck
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Bert beat me to the good advice, so I'll just add one thing: have patience. it's the aquarist's best friend, while trying to rush things is our worst enemy.

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Old 09-05-2017, 03:41 PM   #4
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Hi y'all, it's me again! I have an app that tracks my water changes, maintenance, dosings, parameter checks, etc., so I attached a picture/graph of a few of the water parameters that I regularly check. I have done 3 PWC (1 30%, 2 50%) and have always dosed with Stability and Prime afterwards. To do these PWC, I used the Python No Spill Clean & Fill, which doubles as a siphon. I have siphoned some of my substrate because my water was cloudy and there was unsightly debris, but I haven't noticed any negative effects on my cycling. Is anyone able to take a look at my water parameter trends and let me know how far into cycling I am?

Thank you so so much!

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Looks like your cycle reset half way through? U want 0 ammonia and 0 nitrite with only nitrate readings. Seems to look like the cycle was done on the 17th of August but then nitrites came back. I'd wait a week with 0 water changes (unless u have fish already and see if your nitrite stays 0 and the ammonia settles and you get a nitrate reading

Have you been dosing bacteria booster at all? I've found it halves the time the cycle takes
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Looks like your cycle reset half way through? U want 0 ammonia and 0 nitrite with only nitrate readings. Seems to look like the cycle was done on the 17th of August but then nitrites came back. I'd wait a week with 0 water changes (unless u have fish already and see if your nitrite stays 0 and the ammonia settles and you get a nitrate reading

Have you been dosing bacteria booster at all? I've found it halves the time the cycle takes
I actually setup/began cycling my tank on the 17th. I don't have fish, and the last PWC I did was 50% yesterday (9/4). I have not been using any bacteria booster. Any particular brand recommendations?
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I actually setup/began cycling my tank on the 17th. I don't have fish, and the last PWC I did was 50% yesterday (9/4). I have not been using any bacteria booster. Any particular brand recommendations?


I think I used tetra safe start by Api? Think that's what it's called. If you read the label it should say "contains live bacteria" I'd say your half way through the cycle not long to go
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I think I used tetra safe start by Api? Think that's what it's called. If you read the label it should say "contains live bacteria" I'd say your half way through the cycle not long to go
Didn't you say in the first post you were seachem stability? That is a bottled bacteria product.
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Didn't you say in the first post you were seachem stability? That is a bottled bacteria product.


I think stability is a GH booster rather than bacteria isn't it?
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I think stability is a GH booster rather than bacteria isn't it?
Isn't that equilibrium?

Here is the beginning of the marketing blurb for Stability.

Stabilityģ will rapidly and safely establish the aquarium biofilter in freshwater and marine systems, thereby preventing the #1 cause of fish death: "new tank syndrome". Stabilityģ is formulated specifically for the aquarium and contains a synergistic blend of aerobic, anaerobic, and facultative bacteria which facilitate the breakdown of waste organics, ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate.
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