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Old 11-07-2006, 12:17 AM   #11
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The Eheim's are far better then the XP's IMO. I have an XP2 and an Eheim pro II 2026. These two models are made for the same tank size, so it's a fair comparison, but for the price of the Eheim you could have two XP2's. The media compartments of the Eheim are about twice the size of the XP's. The Eheim flow rate is quite a bit more then the XP's. Construction of the Eheim is also top notch with the XP falling alittle short. The XP has the advantage of market support locally. No one around here has media for an Eheim, but they have everything for an XP. The Eheim's priming is also the easiest I have ever used, while the XP's is "I hope I don't have to use it" kinda approach. Both are easy to install and maintain.

In short, Eheim's are the cadillac of cannister filters, where as the XP's are the best for the money cannister filters.

again that was for an Eheim pro II 2026 which is overkill on a 29 gallon tank.

I would recommend an XP2 anyday for that tank. That is what I am running on my 28 gallon tank.
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Old 11-07-2006, 09:58 AM   #12
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So would it be a good idea for me to purchase bio rings and filter floss along with the XP2? I am going to purchase it today and would like to get the appropriate media while I'm at it. I have a planted tank and do not use carbon, so I'd like to put a sponge and some bio rings in the baskets, would I also be able to add floss, or with two baskets, all you can add it two typs of media? In other words, can I add three types of media to the XP2, even though there are only 2 baskets? Can I fit two types of media in one basket?

Thank you all for your help, it's greatly appreciated.
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The filter comes with sponges in the first basket already and those can be rinsed and reused, so no need to purchased those ones. Get the bio rings, but go to Walmart and get "Morning Glory Low loft quilter's ployester batting" for the the filter floss. only costs a couple of bucks and will last atleast a year. It's the same stuff, but a fraction of the cost. Also, don't just walk into the store and purchase it as that price, bring in the web price. I always go to Petsmart and bring in the web price and price match. WAY cheaper that way. when I purchased my XP2 I saved 40 bucks doing that.
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Yes you can, I have in order bottom to top, course sponges and then fine sponges both in the bottom basket. The top basket half to three quarters filled with filter floss, then the rings on top.

The water flow on the xp series comes in around the outside and up from the bottom through the media. Thats the reasoning for the order of the media.

I hope that makes sense to you.
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Yes, it does make sense to me. As far as going to Walmart, that's one store that is not anywhere near my home, which is so unfortunate for me. So I will have to look elsewhere for the filter floss.

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Yes, it does make sense to me. As far as going to Walmart, that's one store that is not anywhere near my home, which is so unfortunate for me. So I will have to look elsewhere for the filter floss.

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Well, Walmart or where ever. The point was not to buy the floss at the pet store. 8) And don't forget, don't pay store price. If they will not give it to you at the web price, Petsmart.com has Free shipping until the end of the year. so you have to wait a few days. so what, you saved 40 bucks, thats worth a few days to me. good luck.
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My Eheims have the Eheim media in them, but the Fluvals and the XP2 have plastic (nylon?) pot scrubbers for bio filtration and some of that Walmart floss for polishing/mechanical. You can also find the same stuff at a hobby store like Michaels. My XP2 came with the coarse/fine sponges so I just use them in the bottom basket and potscrubber/floss in the top one.
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I use an XP2 on my 29G and it does a fantastic job. I have the sponges in the bottom basket, and ceramic rings in the bottom half of the upper basket, and floss and the fine Filsstar pad in the upper part of the upper basket. Works like a charm.
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I think I'm developing a filter fetish. This thread must have inspired me to go out and pick up some more canister filters. At least that's the excuse I'm using....

I lucked up on a couple of Ehiem Classics (2217 & 2215) on craigslist (my new favorite website!). The guy was getting out of the hobby due to he and his wife expecting a baby. i guess he was under a bit of pressure to clear stuff out because I got both filter with media for a total of $140.00!!! 8O

These things are practically new. he told me that the 2217 was run for a couple of days before going right back in the box. The 2215 looks just has new but was run a little longer. Either way, I got a great deal and now have enough canisters to take me through the next upgrade....whenever that is.

Now I have 4 Eheims (2217, 2217, 2215, 2213), 2 XP's (XP2, XP1), and 2 Fluval 304's, both of which I will be getting rid of very shortly.

3/4 of the 'Eheim Gang' (2213/2215/2217)
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