chain sword going transparent...

[JDogg]

ok all the leaves on my Narrow Leaf Chain Sword are going transparent...

might be a deficiency, like K or Fe, but... i dose IE...

~30 ppm NO3
~4 ppm PO4
~30 ppm K
~5 ppm Fe (in the form of CSM+B)

PH= 6.8
KH = 13

DIY CO2

light is ~2.6 wpg T8s

i first noticed this late last week, before doing a MAJOR re-aquascape...
removed a VERY LARGE Wisteria and some VERY fast growing Hygrophila polysperma v. Ceylon as part of the Full on Amazonification of the tank (75 in my sig).
my though is the fast growing wisteria and hygro may have been taking up too much of the nutrients and causing me to now see a deficiency in my chain swords...
what do you all think?
do you think that with those plants removed, i will see the chain swords bounce back.
or am i missing a problem somewhere else?


here is a picture...

[rkilling1]

Fisrt off, that's a lot of CSM+B are you sure it's 5 PPM Fe?

How hard is your water? are you sure you are getting enough Ca and Mg?

EDIT: with a change in your tank (ie removal of the other plants) it will take some time to notice a change in the other plants. It may take a week to two weeks to see this difference.

[JDogg]

Originally Posted by rkilling1

Fisrt off, that's a lot of CSM+B are you sure it's 5 PPM Fe?

lol sorry 0.5 ppm Fe

How hard is your water? are you sure you are getting enough Ca and Mg?

lets just call it liquid rock i can drink... without Co2 KH is around 25 degrees and GH is around 20 degrees..... with the limestone bedrock Ca should not be a problem
acording to my cities water report the tap water contains 77.7 mg/l Ca and 29.4 mg/l Mg HERE

EDIT: with a change in your tank (ie removal of the other plants) it will take some time to notice a change in the other plants. It may take a week to two weeks to see this difference.

[rkilling1]

Originally Posted by JDogg

lets just call it liquid rock i can drink... without Co2 KH is around 25 degrees and GH is around 20 degrees.....

CO2 doesn't change your KH or GH only your pH.

I would say your swords do have a nutrient deficiency somewhere, but since you remove a lot of nutrient absorbing plants, I would wait and see what happens.

HTH

[JDogg]

Originally Posted by rkilling1

CO2 doesn't change your KH or GH only your pH.

I would say your swords do have a nutrient deficiency somewhere, but since you remove a lot of nutrient absorbing plants, I would wait and see what happens.

HTH

i added infor about Ca and Mg above...

well my tap water tests different for KH then the tank water does

[rkilling1]

Originally Posted by JDogg

well my tap water tests different for KH then the tank water does

Some plants can use the carbon from carbonate hardness (KH) and that is why you see a difference.

[JDogg]

Originally Posted by rkilling1

Some plants can use the carbon from carbonate hardness (KH) and that is why you see a difference.

makes sence

so do you think i should do anything or should i just "stay the course" ?

[rkilling1]

Originally Posted by JDogg

so do you think i should do anything or should i just "stay the course" ?

All of your ferts are in range and your lighting looks good. So I think you should just give it some time and see what happens. The other thing I would suggest would be root tabs, because swords are heavy root feeders and that WILL help them grow regardless of how much nutrients there are in the water column.

HTH

[JDogg]

Originally Posted by rkilling1

All of your ferts are in range and your lighting looks good. So I think you should just give it some time and see what happens. The other thing I would suggest would be root tabs, because swords are heavy root feeders and that WILL help them grow regardless of how much nutrients there are in the water column.

HTH

i am always forgetting something..i do use flourish root tabs, but it also probabaly time to add some new ones... has been ~2 months...

[Peyton]

Just wondering if maybe they were getting shaded by some of the other plants? I've noticed my dwarf sagittaria will do the same thing if they don't get enough light.