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Old 07-24-2007, 02:59 PM   #1
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Low light ADA tank, you can easily do it with less light

Some have suggeswted that low light is bad or you cannot grow nice tanks without high light.

You have far less demand for CO2 and nutrients, thus have far more wiggle room with any method using less light: here's 1.5 /gal on a 70 gallon tank, 2x 54w T5's.

Less heat, less cost both short and long term, easier management, how many folks have ever killed fish using light? How about neglect and over feeding(nutrients)? Co2? Lots!!!

Makes a lot more sense to use less light as algae grows slower with less light as well. The tank's system has more time to cycle etc etc.

Easier to prune etc.



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Old 07-24-2007, 03:45 PM   #2
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Awesome. What kind of light fixture is that?
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Old 07-24-2007, 04:19 PM   #3
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That looks incredible, but if you are overfeeding on the plant nutrients, is it viable for fish, or is this merely a proof of concept tank?
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Looks great Tom. What kind of plants do you have in there?
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I too would like to know what plants are in there...besides the narrow leaf Java fern which I have as well...

I am cutting the light on my 55 in half as soon as the new bulbs show up...will essentially have 96 watts on a 55; I am curious to see what happens to the "high light" plants in the tank now. I just got tired of trimming all the time.
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I too would like to know what plants are in there...besides the narrow leaf Java fern which I have as well...

I am cutting the light on my 55 in half as soon as the new bulbs show up...will essentially have 96 watts on a 55; I am curious to see what happens to the "high light" plants in the tank now. I just got tired of trimming all the time.
Same here. I just purchased a new light fixture. 260 watts, 2 X 65 watt 10K and 2 X 65 watt 03. So 130 watts over a 75 gallon tank. Two weeks into it and I am enjoying the results so far. Tom and his HLD got me to lower my lighting.

BTW, that is a nice tank Tom. Is that yours or one of your clients?
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Looks kinda like a store - maybe Aqua Forest?
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:46 PM   #8
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It's sitting at AF as is.
No special stuff here.
Rotlala green, hair grass etc.
More fish in there than you might suspect.

2x54 W T5 Archea fixture, AF sells and imports them.
They dose ferts etc.

The point is less the dose, CO2, because you need much less with any method, the poiunt of the matter is that we do not need nearly as much light as folks claim.

Why limit CO2, or nutrients and not light?

Makes no sense at all, yet I get into issues with folks over that very often insisting you must have high light, which is of course complete garbage.

120 micromoles at the water surface under the lights, 30 micromols at the farthest reaches

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Duh. Upon closer inspection, I see fish in the tank.
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Nice job Tom. I've been a proponent of low light tanks since I started in planted. I get very good results with most standard "green" plants in this environment. I do not get fantastic results with "reds" for the most part. Growth rates are also slower than in a super charged tank but it does work.

I will make a note to those who wish to try it. CO2 is still a concern for me as algae did have an opportunity to take root a few months ago. This was in the form of the dreaded BBA. I would discourage planting a lot of heavy rooted nutrient hogs, which I found to my horror, depleted the tanks resources in a hurry.
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