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I hope Scott H. does not mind, but I thought this was amusing (in a debate on APD about shutting off pressurized CO2 during lights out):

A solenoid is no more necessary for good aquatic gardening
than is a pH controller. But it won't hurt.

Some Phun reasons for using a solenoid:

The meachnaphobic compulsion -- It came on the regulator
and I don't like unscrewing things. This is actually fairly
common despite the years of telethons.

The Technophilial Temptation -- The solenoid wants to be
used; the threads fit together so nicely; the soft barely
audible hum sings to me; it's warmth consoles me; its
energy excites me . . .

The Math Bath Indulgence -- It gives me data that really
spins the propeller on my beancounter beanie. I get to
compute saving a little bit on CO2 against the offset of
slightly increased startup costs and a bit higher
electrical consumption, while making assumptions about the
linearity of future energy prices.

The Argumentum ad Hominem. So and so does it so it must be
right. Of course, you must pick hominem carefully since
many of the great ones don't use solenoids.

The Categorical Imperative -- If I can do with it then I
Kant do without it. This one doesn't seem to follow pure
reason but no one seems to really understand Kant anyway --
"Das erkentnisse ist meshuga!"

The Pastoral Appeal -- Like CO2, it's a part of nature,
although Solenoidus axelrodii has yet to be found in the
wild.

The Aristotelean Anatomy -- it was once thought to cool the
brain.

The Animation Affectation -- Inspector Gadget is my
favorite movie.

Have widgets, have fun,
Scott H.
 
The meachnaphobic compulsion -- It came on the regulator
and I don't like unscrewing things. This is actually fairly
common despite the years of telethons.

Hehehehehehe, That is EXACTLY why I use the solenoid on my basement CO2 regulator! (No PH controller, just with timer.)

Upstairs, no soleniod, CO2 runs 24/7. Basement, got CO2 setup as a kit*, came with solenoid and timer, would use timer for my lights anyway, so why not for the solenoid also!?!?!?

Never had a ph crash, or noticed any difference in plant growth between the two setups.

*Mentioned this is some other thread sometime, my wife bought me the CO2 kit as a Christmas present. It wasn't something I would have chosen myself, but she worked really hard to try and give me a gift I'd really like. There was no way on earth I was returning that gift! In the long run it has turned out to be a fine CO2 system, works great!
 
Is it a general consensus that the solenoid is not necessary, because if thats true why wouldnt people just get the regulators used for brewing and save the 30-40 dollars? if there is a problem with lights out, lack of O2, couldnt you just put a air pump on a timer for lights out.. Im beginning to think a pressurized system might be more affordable than I thought! :mrgreen: it would waste CO2 but It would take quite a wile to spend that much money on CO2..
 
Regulators used for brewing? Do you mean regulators used for dispensing beverages? Those types of regulators dispense CO2 at a much higher rate than what we use, and that is why we need this type of regulator - it has to squeeze out very tiny amounts of gas at a time.

I would say far more planted tank aquarists just run CO2 24/7, or put it on a timer with the lights, since many consider the night-time CO2 output concern vastly overrated. Many don't use the pH monitors, either, but consider that once they set their CO2 it will stay that way, and they would much rather test their KH regularly, which is something that can definitely change, and changes your CO2 concentration.

I just found Scott H's post to be amusing :D
 
regulators made to make carbonated beverages.. actually..
are there regulators made for planted aquariums that have no solenoid valve included :?:
 
Aquamedic makes one without the solenoid - you can remove it, too, as these regulators are simple plumbing fixture connections.
 
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