aquarium advice logo

Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium & Reef Forum > Freshwater > Freshwater & Brackish - Planted Tanks
Portal Register Forums Articles Gallery Reviews Sponsors FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 06-29-2006, 02:16 PM   #11
frostby
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 94
Images: 4
frostby has fishy dreams
I have seen both - saltpeter/stump remover as well as the no - salt. I'll be going to the grocery store after work!! Um, since Potassium is most important here, what happens to the chlorine or sulfates - is one better than the other?
frostby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2006, 05:36 PM   #12
Purrbox
Aquarium Advice Addict
Community Moderator
 
Purrbox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Iowa USA
Posts: 5,381
Purrbox has an aquarium in every roomPurrbox has an aquarium in every roomPurrbox has an aquarium in every roomPurrbox has an aquarium in every roomPurrbox has an aquarium in every roomPurrbox has an aquarium in every roomPurrbox has an aquarium in every room
Sulfates are a micronutrient that is used by plants. I believe the Cl in KCl is actually chloride, but I'm not 100% sure. Either way it's not beneficial to plants and will be kept to a minimum through water changes. Since the sulfate can actually be used by plants there's a slight preference to using K2SO4 over KCl.

Some brands of Stump Remover are KNO3. It's great if you need to dose Nitrates and Potassium, but if you are only looking to dose Potassium or need more than you are getting from the KNO3 dosing you'll want to look at the KCl or K2SO4.
Purrbox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2006, 08:54 PM   #13
czcz
Aquarium Advice Addict
Moderator Emeritus
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: US
Posts: 2,570
Images: 69
czcz has fishy dreams
The salt from Cl- are also of concern according to some. I don't think you have to worry about that with these levels. (I dose lots of KCl as "sodium-free water softener," and only rarely consider trying K2SO4.)

How was your tank doing before adding CO2? Are you open to adding a faster growing plant, like Wisteria, to help your plants outcompete the algae? Attractive layout.
__________________
Stage 4

wet.biggiantnerds.com
czcz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2006, 10:48 AM   #14
frostby
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 94
Images: 4
frostby has fishy dreams
I'd be happy to add additional plants, -I haven't tried anacharis in this tank, but in the past, it dies and rots within a few days so I quit that idea, I've had some luck with the hornwort, but am not familiar with the wisteria.

The major pet stores don't carry much other than high light plants, rarely will i even see something as common as a java fern.

I'm definately in the mood to experiment, just it's hard to be patient and wait a few weeks to see changes, so it's hard to hold back and only do 1 thing at a time. I really haven't seen any difference in the plants since trying Co2, and it seems that my kh/ph ratio hasn't really changed at all since adding this system from the month prior.

So here's where this forum leaves me

1. Do I have a deficiency of "K", or do i have insufficient plants to keep the algae in check?
2. am i missing anything else?
frostby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2006, 03:28 PM   #15
czcz
Aquarium Advice Addict
Moderator Emeritus
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: US
Posts: 2,570
Images: 69
czcz has fishy dreams
1) Likely both. More plants always helps.
2) Your NO3 is dropping quickly, likely in part from CO2 injection, and as Rich suggested having some KNO3 from GregWatson.com/salt-peter/Grants or Greenlight stuimp remover is a good idea. Better to bump up your levels to ~15ppm or so.

This plus tweaking will likely get you where you want to go. You're right about having to wait to evaluate changes, but it's better to make changes slowly for our pets anyway.

When you have time, suggest reading through Tom Barr's Non-CO2 methods, and consider removing CO2 to limit uptake/maintenence. Having K and NO3 (and PO4) on hand will still help, but you can add this in part by feeding the fish.
__________________
Stage 4

wet.biggiantnerds.com
czcz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2006, 04:55 PM   #16
frostby
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 94
Images: 4
frostby has fishy dreams
This stuff is so overwhelming - once I tried it and failed. I'm getting the general idea here isn't to stick to a specific water parameter, but to find a balance, to keep the proper ratio's of fertilizers. This is much trickier than testing for only nitrates and dosing only nitrates!!

This was my mistake, I was thinking that I had either I had too little or too much of any one thing, I am now seeing how just a change in LIGHT, can require all other parameters to change!!!

I hope that more can learn from my mistakes here!
Thanks everyone!
frostby is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I think genetics have gone wrong with my female betta [pics] Puriti Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 4 08-12-2006 07:21 PM
I was wrong, I have krib fry (with pics) Heiko Cichlid Discussion 6 12-08-2005 02:30 PM
Whats wrong with my poor angels? pics inside Jason the Lost Freshwater & Brackish - Unhealthy Fish 3 12-05-2005 11:06 PM
Whats wrong with my plant? (pics) cgcaver Freshwater & Brackish - Planted Tanks 4 01-18-2005 07:48 PM
help, something is wrong with my tank. *pics* illuminum Freshwater & Brackish - Unhealthy Fish 5 02-12-2004 05:37 AM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:55 AM.



Other Social Knowledge forum communities:
Cooking Forum - Sailing Forum - Early Retirement - Airstream Trailer - Aquarium Forum - Royal Forum - Book Forum - Volkswagen Touareg Forum - Jeep Wrangler Forum - Whitewater Kayaking & Rafting Forum - Fiberglass RV Forum - RV Forum - Truck Conversion - U2 Music Forum
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0