Plant ID
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TCTFish
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Family Name: Alismataceae
Scientific Name: Echinodorus horemanni
Common Name: None
Substrate: rich
Lighting: medium
pH value: 6.5-7.5
Hardness: 2-15odH
Temperature: 64-79oF (18-26oC)
Height: Over 24 in (60 cm)
Distribution: Southern Brazil
Characteristics: Leaves short-stemmed, lanceolate, stiff, parchment-like, dark green, slightly undate along the margins.
Aquarium use: Showplant, only for very tall tanks
Might be known as a "Red Rubin sword". Not sure if it's the same, but it's the only sword I know with that color leaf. I did think it may have been an aponogeton (spell??) type but looking closer, I don't think it is. They can look a lot like swords.
Scientific Name: Echinodorus horemanni
Common Name: None
Substrate: rich
Lighting: medium
pH value: 6.5-7.5
Hardness: 2-15odH
Temperature: 64-79oF (18-26oC)
Height: Over 24 in (60 cm)
Distribution: Southern Brazil
Characteristics: Leaves short-stemmed, lanceolate, stiff, parchment-like, dark green, slightly undate along the margins.
Aquarium use: Showplant, only for very tall tanks
Might be known as a "Red Rubin sword". Not sure if it's the same, but it's the only sword I know with that color leaf. I did think it may have been an aponogeton (spell??) type but looking closer, I don't think it is. They can look a lot like swords.
Lowcoaster
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
Red Rubins and E. horemanni are generally sold under both names, especially in LFS's. I would gruess it is E. Red Rubin---horemanni's tend to have a narrower leaf. either way, if properly kept, they will be magnificent plants. 
joe23455
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
Thanks,
After reading your email and looking at the Tropica site I think it might be the narrow leaved version.
Link here to the site and select Echinodorus 'Rubin' (Narrow leaves).
http://192.38.244.204/go.asp?show=products
Cheers
Joe
After reading your email and looking at the Tropica site I think it might be the narrow leaved version.
Link here to the site and select Echinodorus 'Rubin' (Narrow leaves).
http://192.38.244.204/go.asp?show=products
Cheers
Joe
Lowcoaster
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
That's entirely possible as they are quite similar. The only thing is that the narrow leaf variety is MUCH less common in the hobby. I get them for customers who tell me that they are generally not available in LFS's. If your ID is true, you have quite a find!!!!! Keep us up to date on their progress.
Lots of luck with them!!!!!
Lots of luck with them!!!!!
joe23455
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
Dear Lowcoaster,
Do you know of any morphological differences between the "standard" and the Narrow leaved varieties? Other than the obvious :?
The LFS has a number of these and they all seem on small size and narrow leaves. They were not expensive at all.
Cheers
Joe
Do you know of any morphological differences between the "standard" and the Narrow leaved varieties? Other than the obvious :?
The LFS has a number of these and they all seem on small size and narrow leaves. They were not expensive at all.
Cheers
Joe
Lowcoaster
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
Hey Joe,
Taking a closer look at your pictures, I would say you have juvenile Red Rubins, not the narrow leaf variety. If you look at the largest leaf, the stem comes up and then the leaf fans out--this is the leaf shape of the standard Red Rubin. In the Narrow Leaf, there is a smooth, gradual transition from stem to leaf. Now, I am not a botanist and this is just my opinion. If they are not expensive, I would snap them up anyway---Red Rubins are not usually cheap. The size in your picture (3-4 inches high?)run $5-7 in my LFS's. When I import Red Rubin Mother plants, I charge like $25 (about 12 inches high and very full).
I say buy the farm on these!!!
Good Luck
Taking a closer look at your pictures, I would say you have juvenile Red Rubins, not the narrow leaf variety. If you look at the largest leaf, the stem comes up and then the leaf fans out--this is the leaf shape of the standard Red Rubin. In the Narrow Leaf, there is a smooth, gradual transition from stem to leaf. Now, I am not a botanist and this is just my opinion. If they are not expensive, I would snap them up anyway---Red Rubins are not usually cheap. The size in your picture (3-4 inches high?)run $5-7 in my LFS's. When I import Red Rubin Mother plants, I charge like $25 (about 12 inches high and very full).
I say buy the farm on these!!!
Good Luck
joe23455
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
hi,
I see what you mean about the petiole transition to leaf. I think I could get 3 for $9 CDN. Not sure what I would do with them as I only have one tank and a 16G at that.
I am cultivating some small Microsorum pteropus 'Windeløv' off my "mother" plant for my tank. I really like these.
Cheer
Joe
I see what you mean about the petiole transition to leaf. I think I could get 3 for $9 CDN. Not sure what I would do with them as I only have one tank and a 16G at that.
I am cultivating some small Microsorum pteropus 'Windeløv' off my "mother" plant for my tank. I really like these.
Cheer
Joe
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