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Old 02-27-2018, 01:51 PM   #1
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I find I'm buying more and more real plants, something I never did in the past. For the moment I am staying low light. I have Amazon Sword, broad leaf Anubias and a little bit of Java Fern. I am considering helping them out a little and need some advice.

Should I use root tabs?
Seachem Flourish?

Or something else? I have gravel substrate and high ph 8.3
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Old 02-27-2018, 01:58 PM   #2
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I find I'm buying more and more real plants, something I never did in the past. For the moment I am staying low light. I have Amazon Sword, broad leaf Anubias and a little bit of Java Fern. I am considering helping them out a little and need some advice.

Should I use root tabs?
Seachem Flourish?

Or something else? I have gravel substrate and high ph 8.3
Thanks!
Root tabs - Swords/crypts/vals/crinum/apongetons etc.
Flourish - Good for micros (although with a high pH like yours you may need to supplement with other forms, butttttt low light/low tech you should be fine). no macro's in flourish though.
Flourics excel - good Carbon supplement.

Grab an all in one fertilizer like thrive, or some dry ferts and look up PPS-Pro. easy way to fertilize low tech tanks IMO.
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Old 02-28-2018, 12:10 AM   #4
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I'm in the same boat as you Coral. Plants do ehh in my tank and I got 8.6 pH. I've never really focused on plant care and usually pick something easy and hardy. I run an LED strip about 10-12 hours a day. I always keep maxed out tanks in fish stock so maybe that helps them? They don't die but after seeing pics on here I can tell the difference in plant health.

So....thanks Z. I just ordered some Thrive. I'll give it a shot and see how it works.
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This will last years !
I have my original bag still after many years.
I am not a die hard plant person but this stuff sure works and is easy to use.
I have the directions for it if you choose this product....
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Iron and potassium for most plants the fish will do the rest.
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Iron and potassium for most plants the fish will do the rest.
Too many variables with this. While certainly some anubias and java fern can do fine with mostly fish waste, swords for example will start to show deficiencies and slow growth after a month if you aren't supplying them with loads of fertilizer.

Over fertilizing isn't really a big concern, EI dosing anyone? My vote goes for an all in one like Thrive, or what Bandit posted, I personally use dry ferts and either dose dry or make up a solution. Why limit the plants to just P and Fe? If we go with an all in one product, we know we are giving them everything they need.

All this from me, who cares more about plant health than fish, sooooo I may be a little biased
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Requirement for plants:
1.light
2.carbon
3. Macros
4. Micros

Dry ferts is good stuff. Not to expensive and will last you loong time (I'm still on the pack I bought 3 years ago) But for the plants you mentioned (slow growing low tech) you can easily get by without. Fish poop for macros , dose of flourish once a week and you will be good. Seachem tab under that Amazon will last for few month if not more.

As soon as you give things more light it all becomes more complicated. Macros need to be suplemented along with trace (micro) elements, source of carbon will be very very useful, pretty much a requirement. Daily dose of Excel will run your first bottle out really fast and you will be looking at getting metricide14 by gallon. You will really want some faster growing plants (stems) to take the nutrients out of the water before algae has room to grow. Seachem tabs become not cost effective, you will want to roll your own tabs with osmocote.
And it all goes downhill from there
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Lots of great responses. I was reading about the micro - macro, I am a major newbie in the planted tank area. My water is high in calcium and magnesium, do any of these ferts cause algae breakouts or is that more of a strong light issue? Do they affect Nitrates?

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I am planning a new tank with plants. It will take me a while I need to move some furniture LOL. I will then start researching C02 and lighting - but that's not till summer. I am going to build it myself....kinda with help lol.
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Over fertilizing isn't really a big concern, EI dosing anyone?

Too many variables with this also. Not many people use EI that actively participate in this forum either. Some nice tanks mind.

If you are prepared for slower growth you donít have to supply much else other than fish food and some people care more about their pets than their plants.
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