Wisteria help - Aquarium Advice

kaz · 05-31-2007, 04:47 PM

I'm starting to notice my wisteria turning a bit yellowish, what maybe the cause of this.
I dose every other day 2 capfuls of flourish excel

mondays and thursdays I dose csm+b 1/4tsp each day
on monday, thursday and saturday I dose potassium sulfate 1/2tsp per day

**Purrbox** · 05-31-2007, 09:37 PM

Assuming that you have enough light for Wisteria, my guess is that you're running low on Nitrate and/or Phosphate.

kaz · 05-31-2007, 10:24 PM

maybe it is a light issue I have 2x65w

Atl300zx · 06-04-2007, 09:06 AM

what size is ur tank? I grew wisteria very successfully on 130 watts CF on a 55 Gallon with CO2 injection and EI dry fert dosing.

7Enigma · 06-04-2007, 02:11 PM

If this is your 75 gallon from your sig, unless the wisteria is being blocked by other plants/decorations light level shouldn't be an issue.

Do you have a picture of your tank? Wisteria is a very fast growing plant that can deplete nutrients quickly in a tank. I would recommend being on the lighter planted side of things if possible.

I also think nitrAte is not a possibility due to your stocking level and species. I assume you got the dry ferts from Greg Watson? Pick up a pound of mono-potassium phosphate and dose that on days you are not dosing CSM+B (they are incompatible). That would rule out phosphate as a possible issue.

I would also switch to dosing the Excel every day, but the amount I'm not sure about (maybe just 1 capful each day, but that seems like so little). You have a big tank to be adding a liquid carbon source, but pressurized is obviously a significant expense and DIY isn't really practical.

At this time if its not a phosphate issue (which is somewhat unlikely due to feeding your fish which normally has a good bit of phosphates in it), I would lean towards a carbon/CO2 deficiency. If you have a GH/KH test kit that could help us understand your other macro's (Mg/Ca).

HTH

kaz · 06-04-2007, 06:43 PM

this is my 75g and I do have kh/gh test kits and phosphate test kit, which today I will post the results and transfer the wisteria to the center of the tank where possibly more light might hit it. thanks all please come back when test posting are available.

UPDATE:
ok got my testing done.

ph 7.4 to 7.6 cant really tell cause it jumps to 7.2 to 7.6 on card
ammonia 0.0 to 0.10
nitrite 0.0
nitrate 20
phosphate 1.0 to maybe 2.0
GH 14 switch to other color lightly 15th drop change all the way
kh 6 switch to other color lightly 7th drop change all the way

kaz · 06-06-2007, 05:01 PM

anyone?

Atl300zx · 06-07-2007, 09:48 AM

when do you dose nitrates?

kaz · 06-09-2007, 08:34 PM

I don't they stay up there do to stock and food

Atl300zx · 06-10-2007, 09:42 AM

How are the leaves yellowing? yellow leaf edges, yellowish around veins, Old or new leaves showing yellow, any other symptoms?

05-31-2007, 04:47 PM	#1
kaz Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,290	Wisteria help I'm starting to notice my wisteria turning a bit yellowish, what maybe the cause of this. I dose every other day 2 capfuls of flourish excel mondays and thursdays I dose csm+b 1/4tsp each day on monday, thursday and saturday I dose potassium sulfate 1/2tsp per day __________________ I thank you all for your attention and time! 75g/Rena Xp3/Inline Heater/Rena Air 200/Eco-Complete/Current Dual Daylight System 6 Rummy Nose, 9 Ottos, 2 Yoyo Loach, 1 Golden Nugget Pleco, 2 Julli's Cory, 4 Angelicus Botia, 1 Chocolate Kuhli Loach, 3 Ghost Shrimp, 1 SAE, 1 Black Mollie, 1 Redeye Swordtail Mollie, 1 C-Pleco, MTS, Guppy's Plants Argentine Sword, Amazon Sword, Micro Sword, Xmas Moss, Pennywort, Hornwort, Jave Fern, Baby Tears, Moneywort, Ludwigia, Wisteria, Giant Bacoba, Hygro 'Sunset'

05-31-2007, 09:37 PM	#2
Purrbox Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa USA Posts: 5,393	Assuming that you have enough light for Wisteria, my guess is that you're running low on Nitrate and/or Phosphate. __________________ ~Joy 10 Gallon Planted Photo Log - 5.5 Gallon Planted Photo Log - 2.5 Gallon Planted Photo Log - Pico Planted Photo Log

05-31-2007, 10:24 PM	#3
kaz Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,290	maybe it is a light issue I have 2x65w __________________ I thank you all for your attention and time! 75g/Rena Xp3/Inline Heater/Rena Air 200/Eco-Complete/Current Dual Daylight System 6 Rummy Nose, 9 Ottos, 2 Yoyo Loach, 1 Golden Nugget Pleco, 2 Julli's Cory, 4 Angelicus Botia, 1 Chocolate Kuhli Loach, 3 Ghost Shrimp, 1 SAE, 1 Black Mollie, 1 Redeye Swordtail Mollie, 1 C-Pleco, MTS, Guppy's Plants Argentine Sword, Amazon Sword, Micro Sword, Xmas Moss, Pennywort, Hornwort, Jave Fern, Baby Tears, Moneywort, Ludwigia, Wisteria, Giant Bacoba, Hygro 'Sunset'

06-04-2007, 09:06 AM	#4
Atl300zx Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 461	what size is ur tank? I grew wisteria very successfully on 130 watts CF on a 55 Gallon with CO2 injection and EI dry fert dosing. __________________ 55 Gallon Tank Log

06-04-2007, 02:11 PM	#5
7Enigma Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Havertown, PA Posts: 2,624 Images: 5	If this is your 75 gallon from your sig, unless the wisteria is being blocked by other plants/decorations light level shouldn't be an issue. Do you have a picture of your tank? Wisteria is a very fast growing plant that can deplete nutrients quickly in a tank. I would recommend being on the lighter planted side of things if possible. I also think nitrAte is not a possibility due to your stocking level and species. I assume you got the dry ferts from Greg Watson? Pick up a pound of mono-potassium phosphate and dose that on days you are not dosing CSM+B (they are incompatible). That would rule out phosphate as a possible issue. I would also switch to dosing the Excel every day, but the amount I'm not sure about (maybe just 1 capful each day, but that seems like so little). You have a big tank to be adding a liquid carbon source, but pressurized is obviously a significant expense and DIY isn't really practical. At this time if its not a phosphate issue (which is somewhat unlikely due to feeding your fish which normally has a good bit of phosphates in it), I would lean towards a carbon/CO2 deficiency. If you have a GH/KH test kit that could help us understand your other macro's (Mg/Ca). HTH __________________ 20G High -Currently in tank: 1 checkered barb, 1 cory, 1 BN pleco, MTS, variety of platy (fry, juvi, adult), lots of plants. http://www.photolocker.net/images/7Enigma/milfoil2.jpg

06-04-2007, 06:43 PM	#6
kaz Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,290	this is my 75g and I do have kh/gh test kits and phosphate test kit, which today I will post the results and transfer the wisteria to the center of the tank where possibly more light might hit it. thanks all please come back when test posting are available. UPDATE: ok got my testing done. ph 7.4 to 7.6 cant really tell cause it jumps to 7.2 to 7.6 on card ammonia 0.0 to 0.10 nitrite 0.0 nitrate 20 phosphate 1.0 to maybe 2.0 GH 14 switch to other color lightly 15th drop change all the way kh 6 switch to other color lightly 7th drop change all the way __________________ I thank you all for your attention and time! 75g/Rena Xp3/Inline Heater/Rena Air 200/Eco-Complete/Current Dual Daylight System 6 Rummy Nose, 9 Ottos, 2 Yoyo Loach, 1 Golden Nugget Pleco, 2 Julli's Cory, 4 Angelicus Botia, 1 Chocolate Kuhli Loach, 3 Ghost Shrimp, 1 SAE, 1 Black Mollie, 1 Redeye Swordtail Mollie, 1 C-Pleco, MTS, Guppy's Plants Argentine Sword, Amazon Sword, Micro Sword, Xmas Moss, Pennywort, Hornwort, Jave Fern, Baby Tears, Moneywort, Ludwigia, Wisteria, Giant Bacoba, Hygro 'Sunset'

06-06-2007, 05:01 PM	#7
kaz Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,290	anyone? __________________ I thank you all for your attention and time! 75g/Rena Xp3/Inline Heater/Rena Air 200/Eco-Complete/Current Dual Daylight System 6 Rummy Nose, 9 Ottos, 2 Yoyo Loach, 1 Golden Nugget Pleco, 2 Julli's Cory, 4 Angelicus Botia, 1 Chocolate Kuhli Loach, 3 Ghost Shrimp, 1 SAE, 1 Black Mollie, 1 Redeye Swordtail Mollie, 1 C-Pleco, MTS, Guppy's Plants Argentine Sword, Amazon Sword, Micro Sword, Xmas Moss, Pennywort, Hornwort, Jave Fern, Baby Tears, Moneywort, Ludwigia, Wisteria, Giant Bacoba, Hygro 'Sunset'

06-07-2007, 09:48 AM	#8
Atl300zx Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 461	when do you dose nitrates? __________________ 55 Gallon Tank Log

06-09-2007, 08:34 PM	#9
kaz Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,290	I don't they stay up there do to stock and food __________________ I thank you all for your attention and time! 75g/Rena Xp3/Inline Heater/Rena Air 200/Eco-Complete/Current Dual Daylight System 6 Rummy Nose, 9 Ottos, 2 Yoyo Loach, 1 Golden Nugget Pleco, 2 Julli's Cory, 4 Angelicus Botia, 1 Chocolate Kuhli Loach, 3 Ghost Shrimp, 1 SAE, 1 Black Mollie, 1 Redeye Swordtail Mollie, 1 C-Pleco, MTS, Guppy's Plants Argentine Sword, Amazon Sword, Micro Sword, Xmas Moss, Pennywort, Hornwort, Jave Fern, Baby Tears, Moneywort, Ludwigia, Wisteria, Giant Bacoba, Hygro 'Sunset'

06-10-2007, 09:42 AM	#10
Atl300zx Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 461	How are the leaves yellowing? yellow leaf edges, yellowish around veins, Old or new leaves showing yellow, any other symptoms? __________________ 55 Gallon Tank Log

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