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Old 05-06-2011, 03:30 PM   #1
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Hay. I'm very new to this forum thing and don't know what I'm doing but I am very desperate for help!
Over the last 2 weeks I have had several unexplained dead guppies then about a week ago a noticed 1 of my female swordtails fins were clamped to her so I done a 25% water change hoping that would help but it didn't. I checked the water quality and all was fine. After a few days another female went the same way. I've done another small water change but things are getting worse! The first female has died and my guppies are extremely thin looking as is 1 of my tetra. I have noticed them rubbing on occasion and studied them, there are no white spots on the fish or any other markings. I have also tried treating for velvet (through others advice) but after 2 more days my poor poor fish still look very unwell! PLEASE somebody help me.

120 litre tank
4 swordtails 1 male/3 female (left)
4 guppies all female (left)
4 silvertip tetra
6 neon tetra
Countless babies (guppies/swordtails)

Water quality is all fine
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:08 PM   #2
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1) Please post the actual tests and test results instead of saying the water is fine.
2) How long has this tank been set up?
3) Any recent changes to this tank in the last month? Have you been out of town? Has someone else been cleaning/painting etc near your tank?
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Old 05-06-2011, 11:37 PM   #3
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Yeah I agree. If we had actual test results them we may be able to give an opinion make sure your test kit is a good one preferably Api master kit (as this is very accurate) as even 0.25 ammonia and small amounts of nitrites may have caused this from what I have heard/seen
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Old 05-09-2011, 06:46 AM   #4
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Sorry peeps, couldn't get connected to the Internet yesterday. Thank you so much for replying.
My water quality is:
Nitrate. - 0
Nitrite - 0
Chlorine - 0
pH. - 7
KH - 3
GH - 4

I also lost my male swordtail yesterday. I am at a total loss. One of my baby swords is in a bad way too his fins are clamped so tight his little tail fin is like an arrow! :-(
Yesterday I went to my pet store and asked in there, I also took a water sample and the guy said my water was perfect which is a good thing in one hand but doesn't help in identifying the problem. I left with a bottle of tetra general tonic and the guy scratching his head also!
There has been no changes to my tank at all (except babies) no aerosols sprayed near it, it only gets cleaned on the outside with a damp cloth, no painting in the house or anything else!
What is happening???
Thanks again for replying and sorry for the delay in getting back to you folks!!
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Old 05-09-2011, 06:52 AM   #5
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[QUOTE="TheBruce1314"]Sorry peeps, couldn't get connected to the Internet yesterday. Thank you so much for replying.
My water quality is:
Nitrate. - 0
Nitrite - 0
Chlorine - 0
pH. - 7
KH - 3
GH - 4

I also lost my male swordtail yesterday. I am at a total loss. One of my baby swords is in a bad way too his fins are clamped so tight his little tail fin is like an arrow! :-(
Yesterday I went to my pet store and asked in there, I also took a water sample and the guy said my water was perfect which is a good thing in one hand but doesn't help in identifying the problem. I left with a bottle of tetra general tonic and the guy scratching his head also!
There has been no changes to my tank at all (except babies) no aerosols sprayed near it, it only gets cleaned on the outside with a damp cloth, no painting in the house or anything else!
What is happening???
Thanks again for replying and sorry for the delay in getting back to you folks!!
Ps. my own test kit isn't top quality I shall invest in one tho but the stores was top drawer and I have not been away before this all started
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:16 AM   #6
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Sorry peeps, couldn't get connected to the Internet yesterday. Thank you so much for replying.
My water quality is:
Nitrate. - 0
Nitrite - 0
Chlorine - 0
pH. - 7
KH - 3
GH - 4

I also lost my male swordtail yesterday. I am at a total loss. One of my baby swords is in a bad way too his fins are clamped so tight his little tail fin is like an arrow! :-(
Yesterday I went to my pet store and asked in there, I also took a water sample and the guy said my water was perfect which is a good thing in one hand but doesn't help in identifying the problem. I left with a bottle of tetra general tonic and the guy scratching his head also!
There has been no changes to my tank at all (except babies) no aerosols sprayed near it, it only gets cleaned on the outside with a damp cloth, no painting in the house or anything else!
What is happening???
Thanks again for replying and sorry for the delay in getting back to you folks!!
It sounds to me like your tank is not properly cycled, I have noticed that on your testing there is no ammonia results and as we all know ammonia is deadly to fish and may be causing this so my advice to you would be get some ammonia test results and come back to me and we can take it from there
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Ammonia is fine too! I don't have an ammonia test so i forgot to put it in but it was tested for yesterday at the store and it was good! The guy there said it would probably be ammonia too but that's why he was left stumped after testing because that was his last hope. I have had this tank for about 6 months it was left to cycle for over two weeks before I put my fish into it. I put some gravel from my old tank into this one to help the bacteria grow. My fish have been very happy up until a couple of weeks ago and bang!
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What are you doing to make nitrate be 0? Unless you've been doing a ton of large water changes, I'd expect your nitrate to be higher in a healthy tank. If you've not done anything special, your test kit is probably bad.

What is your normal maintenance routine? This happened soon after the babies were born? What are you feeding the babies?

Generally if the fish breed you have decent conditions, so something must have changed. Was there any fighting surrounding the breeding rituals? Perhaps one fish died of wounds, wasn't found right away, and his corpse created an ammonia spike? Perhaps there is something about the food you're feeding the babies? No other routine changes for the sake of the babies?
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I have not changed any routines at all. I didn't put the mothers into a breeding tank jst let nature take it's course. I never noticed any fighting whilst the babies were being born. That's not to say there wasn't though. I feed the tank with flakes and just crush some of the flakes a little more for the little guys and that's what I have always fed them, nothing new.
My normal cleaning routine is 20/30% water change every week. My test kit is a basic one nothing special so I expect the nitrate isn't absolute zero but I know it's low enough to be safe. I must say the guy that tested my water was very surprised at my water quality but that's what it is. I never use any chemicals for the tank just tap safe and nothing else.
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This did however happen quite soon after the babies where born and on cleaning one time I did find 2 quite well decayed guppies (about 3 weeks ago) so maybe there was an ammonia spike but that would have only been for a few days so do you think that could still be affecting them even now?
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