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Old 12-01-2014, 09:15 AM   #21
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:07 PM   #22
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Hi, Neons are more active spot on one looks smaller and is not totally smooth it has small bits hanging of side of mouth, the one with the spot on the tail is still the same, and the other one with spot on the mouth looks the same. Due for another dose of meds tonight, will do a water change and try a get a better look at them in clearer water.
Should I do a second dose of Tri Sulpha?

DT tank all looking good in there, put Tri Sulpha in yesterday all fish seemed ok with it. Should I do a second dose on Wednesday or leave it alone and just do the water change?

New meds have not arrived yet.

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Old 12-02-2014, 01:47 AM   #23
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Just got home for lunch and found 1 Neon floating on the top of the QT tank R.I.P😥 did not have any spots or anything on him, was fine this morning. All the others still seem fine swimming and eating.

Hopefully they will all be alive when I get back tonight.


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That is sad news

Yes, on the second round of triple sulpha.

A salt dip may help if the other meds are knocking it down but not completing. I'd try that in a day or so, maybe weekend when more time. There was one thread that used hydrogen peroxide (as at chemist here) but I've not seen it repeated so can't really suggest it. I've only used it on algae.

At least the weather seems cooler than last year
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Old 12-02-2014, 07:33 AM   #25
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Just did the water change on the QT tank and can see a bit better now, all the Neons have patches of white slime over them, the spots on the mouth and tail are the same have not improved.

Was that a yes to Tri Sulpha in both tanks?


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Just did the water change on the QT tank and can see a bit better now, all the Neons have patches of white slime over them, the spots on the mouth and tail are the same have not improved.

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Yes in both tanks. It would be also unfortunately in the DT, the darn infection will survive a month in an empty tank.

Thinking here - we're running out of meds.
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I'm going to suggest salting the QT tank as well.

I've had tetras and catfish fine with salt although at a lighter dose for longer. I've thought it does help, even if it just seems to clean the fish up so the meds have a better chance.

On more reading a 1% dose rate is to aim for. If the fish rolls over, loses equilibrium or gets very slow gill movement, then a water change to reduce salt level.

I've copied in a link below for dosing. Mainly as I tend to think in gallons and tablespoons. I would dose 1 teaspoon salt per 1 gal to get them used to it, then 3 after 12hrs (commonly suggested in US as 1 tablespoon per gal max), then to the 7.5 per gallon as in link.

I'd let them go longer then 12hrs in it if doing ok, more like 48. It's going to be a bit of suck and see if you did want to try.

Only other med to try that I know is in lfs is the tetracycline. It's not suited to higher ph and wrong bacteria class but out of options. I'd actually favour the salt first.


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Ok will pick up some salt tomorrow and give it a go. Is it ok to use with the Tri Sulpha in the tank? Sorry for all the questions!




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Yes, ok to combine. The main note I have is not to combine triple sulpha with other sulphate meds like copper sulphate. No worries on the questions, happy to share what I've found.

Also worth checking how your nitrifying bacteria are going with the meds and if getting any ammonia or nitrite. I used API ammo lock but seachem prime will detoxify nitrite as well for a day or so. Salt will also protect fish against nitrites.

Normally combining meds is a no no but this is such a hard infection to beat. Standard US treatment would be kanaplex + furan 2 (or some other antibiotic to treat gram negative bacteria) with salt (dosing not dip) and lower temps. Even with that it seems the first batch of infected fish are sometimes lost and it's more saving the rest which are now caught early in the infection as the tank has been dosed. Dosing is usually multiple times as well. Triple sulpha and acriflavine don't really get used as the heavy hitting antibiotic meds are preferred.

Best success I had was with a large bn catfish using salt, cooler weather and waterlife myxazin (acriflavine, MG).
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Hi, Very tired fishy person here lol!

Went to the fish store today to pick up sum salt on other supplies, the fish guy was there today and I had a chat with him told him what was going on he thinks it is Columnaris as well and gave me some Aquari-Cycline Tablets said to put 1/2Tablet in QT Tank and 2 Tablets in my DT tank so I did Water change on both dosed them as he said, hope I've done the right thing! I did that about an hour ago 8pm it's now just after 9pm and the fish in both tanks seem fine so far.

I still bought the salt as well.

Did water test on the DT tank and all perfect there Amonia 0, Nitrite 0, & Nitrate 20. I have been putting a dose of Start Right into the filter the day after the meds.

Will keep you posted!

Thank once again for all the help.


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