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Old 04-01-2004, 03:54 PM   #1
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QT and sandbed

2 questions

1.When setting up [acronym:7c93033e62="quarantine or quart depending on context"]QT[/acronym:7c93033e62],using water from main tank already cycled,what filtration system and how do you get the media to mature?Does it take a while before you can place fish from main tank into [acronym:7c93033e62="quarantine or quart depending on context"]QT[/acronym:7c93033e62].I am going fallow after ich .

2.I have about 2 inch sandbed in main tank (half live sand, half agronite)I have never stirred up this substrate.Should I or will I disrupt things.I have 2 turbo snails, 3 Hermit crabs and a Chocolate Chip Starfish.Not sure how much they sift the sandbed.
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Old 04-01-2004, 04:46 PM   #2
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If you have Ich, you need to move them out and start treatment pronto. Don't worry about cycling the [acronym:839c16f8d5="quarantine or quart depending on context"]qt[/acronym:839c16f8d5]. If you use meds it will kill the bacteria anyway. You can keep the ammonia and nitrite levels down with water changes.
You inverts can stay in the main for the fallow period, they are not affected by the parasite . You may want to turn your main tank temp up to 83-84, this will speed up the lifecycle of the parasite.
Your not putting sand in the [acronym:839c16f8d5="quarantine or quart depending on context"]qt[/acronym:839c16f8d5] are you? This would disrupt any meds you would be using.
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Old 04-01-2004, 09:51 PM   #3
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No I'm not putting sand in [acronym:ba229af427="quarantine or quart depending on context"]QT[/acronym:ba229af427].I was referring to main tank.The fish I still have are 2 Damsels and a Royal Gramma currently not showing any signs of stress or ich.
What type of filter is recommended for [acronym:ba229af427="quarantine or quart depending on context"]QT[/acronym:ba229af427]?I don't plan on treating current fish unless signs of ich appear.
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Old 04-01-2004, 10:05 PM   #4
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First off do not disrupt your SB. You don't want to destroy the bacteria, or unlock any sulfide bubbles which I hope you don't have. (Doubt it if its only 2 inches) Anyways I think a small [acronym:d02366f9bb="Hang On Back"]HOB[/acronym:d02366f9bb] filter with a sponge or fiber would work for [acronym:d02366f9bb="quarantine or quart depending on context"]QT[/acronym:d02366f9bb], to catch the larger particles. Just rinse it every other day or so. Also I have seen some people use terracotta pots in their [acronym:d02366f9bb="quarantine or quart depending on context"]QT[/acronym:d02366f9bb] for the fish to hide. Also you don't need to use meds. Hyposalinity works very well, and you wont have to use any copper.

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Old 04-02-2004, 12:12 AM   #5
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Thanks Six Line for your suggestions.I'm not sure how to tell if there are any sulfide bubbles.I've seen comments on other posts talking about sand sifting fish or inverts and was not sure if you don't have them if you need to manually stir things up or not.I'll leave it alone unless someone else has other opinions.
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Well if its only 2 inches you hsouldn't. You don't want sifters they eat all the good worms, and [acronym:5363d8880b="copepods, amphipods, etc"]pods[/acronym:5363d8880b]. So if you don't have more worms/[acronym:5363d8880b="copepods, amphipods, etc"]pods[/acronym:5363d8880b] then the animal can eat it could die. What you do want is shifters, (not sifters) I use nassarius snails. They do a great job.
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Old 04-02-2004, 12:37 PM   #7
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Do you keep your [acronym:1b1ea077b1="quarantine or quart depending on context"]QT[/acronym:1b1ea077b1]'s up continuously? For example if you were treating with hyposalinity could you keep a [acronym:1b1ea077b1="quarantine or quart depending on context"]QT[/acronym:1b1ea077b1] running in parallel with your main tank? What would you need to add to the [acronym:1b1ea077b1="quarantine or quart depending on context"]QT[/acronym:1b1ea077b1] to keep the nitrogen cycle stable?

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Old 04-02-2004, 01:36 PM   #8
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If your using hyposalinity rather than medications, then I think you should have media... Mabye some base rock, or a [acronym:b523d397ad="Hang On Back"]HOB[/acronym:b523d397ad] filter. Yes I would run it continuously.
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Old 04-03-2004, 02:39 AM   #9
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I have 1 inch live sand and 2 inches of agrogate on top which is crushed coral, shoud i use nassarius snails if so how many I have 4 turbos, and 1 conch, in a 55 [acronym:44addb13db="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:44addb13db] with 6 hermits. Actually I just cycled 60 lbs of rock in my tank and have my fish and snails in my [acronym:44addb13db="quarantine or quart depending on context"]QT[/acronym:44addb13db] which has a bio wheel and filter, it is an eclipse 3 [acronym:44addb13db="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:44addb13db]. with a 6 lbs of 1yr old [acronym:44addb13db="Live rock"]lr[/acronym:44addb13db] on it.

Im thinking of throwing 50 nassarius and turbos in [acronym:44addb13db="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:44addb13db] has suff sluffing off it.

what do you all think, to many, I think 25 might do trick, just dont know how many is two many.
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