Quantity of LR for cycle - Aquarium Advice

petersolson · 12-18-2004, 02:53 PM

I will be shortly starting a 75g [acronym:6dfb941e35="Fish only with live rock"]FOWLR[/acronym:6dfb941e35] tank. I plan to cycle it with [acronym:6dfb941e35="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:6dfb941e35] from liverocks.com. The question is, how much to start with? I think the overall target is for 120 lbs at the end. Can I start with 40 lbs of [acronym:6dfb941e35="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:6dfb941e35] and 80 lbs of what they call live base rock or some other dry base rock and let the [acronym:6dfb941e35="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:6dfb941e35] seed the base rock? or should I up the quantity of [acronym:6dfb941e35="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:6dfb941e35]? and how long will each option take to cycle?

followup question - i plan to run an Aqua-C Remora protein skimmer. in addition to the [acronym:6dfb941e35="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:6dfb941e35], do I need another kind of filter while I wait for all the rock to be seeded and fully [acronym:6dfb941e35="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:6dfb941e35]?

Thanks.

quarryshark · 12-18-2004, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Can I start with 40 lbs of [acronym:53b00a89d0="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:53b00a89d0] and 80 lbs of what they call live base rock or some other dry base rock and let the [acronym:53b00a89d0="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:53b00a89d0] seed the base rock?

That sounds like a great plan and will work fine. They ship the live rock so quickly that it won't take long at all to cycle. If fact to help it along , you may want to add a cocktail shrimp while cycling.

IfoundNemo · 12-19-2004, 01:38 PM

You also need to get atleast 2 [acronym:a85b6282f3="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:a85b6282f3] and a a heater if you haven't done so. I cycled my 75 [acronym:a85b6282f3="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:a85b6282f3] with [acronym:a85b6282f3="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:a85b6282f3]/BR [acronym:a85b6282f3="Live sand"]LS[/acronym:a85b6282f3]/BS and 3 cocktail shrimps. It took only 3 weeks to get the amonia and nitrite reading 0... Good Luck with your cycle process.

petersolson · 12-19-2004, 03:37 PM

Thanks to both of you for your replies. I have planned for three maxijet 1200s and two visitherm heaters. Will i need some additional form of filtration while waiting for all the rock to be live?

gregp · 12-21-2004, 06:49 PM

I hope I don't get blasted for this, but.... what exactly is a cocktail shrimp? Couldn't I just add a fire shrimp or two in the tank for the cycle?

RMPD109 · 12-21-2004, 07:04 PM

Cocktail shrimp are shrimp from the local food store. The kind for human consumption. You just need something that will decay and produce ammonia to cycle with. Be careful not to get seasoned shrimp or shrimp with additives.

guitarded · 12-21-2004, 08:33 PM

yeah and don't forget the cocktail sauce!!!

arminkropp · 12-21-2004, 10:05 PM

Won't the [acronym:3ddb5b8ee4="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:3ddb5b8ee4] cycle the tank without the need for shrimp?

RMPD109 · 12-21-2004, 10:53 PM

Yes, the [acronym:fe3c87a378="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:fe3c87a378] will as long as there is enough die off for your initial ammonia spike. The shrimp would just give you a good spike.

12-18-2004, 02:53 PM	#1
petersolson Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bethel, Connecticut Posts: 12	Quantity of LR for cycle I will be shortly starting a 75g [acronym:6dfb941e35="Fish only with live rock"]FOWLR[/acronym:6dfb941e35] tank. I plan to cycle it with [acronym:6dfb941e35="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:6dfb941e35] from liverocks.com. The question is, how much to start with? I think the overall target is for 120 lbs at the end. Can I start with 40 lbs of [acronym:6dfb941e35="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:6dfb941e35] and 80 lbs of what they call live base rock or some other dry base rock and let the [acronym:6dfb941e35="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:6dfb941e35] seed the base rock? or should I up the quantity of [acronym:6dfb941e35="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:6dfb941e35]? and how long will each option take to cycle? followup question - i plan to run an Aqua-C Remora protein skimmer. in addition to the [acronym:6dfb941e35="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:6dfb941e35], do I need another kind of filter while I wait for all the rock to be seeded and fully [acronym:6dfb941e35="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:6dfb941e35]? Thanks.

12-19-2004, 01:38 PM	#3
IfoundNemo Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sweet Home ALABAMA Posts: 337	You also need to get atleast 2 [acronym:a85b6282f3="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:a85b6282f3] and a a heater if you haven't done so. I cycled my 75 [acronym:a85b6282f3="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:a85b6282f3] with [acronym:a85b6282f3="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:a85b6282f3]/BR [acronym:a85b6282f3="Live sand"]LS[/acronym:a85b6282f3]/BS and 3 cocktail shrimps. It took only 3 weeks to get the amonia and nitrite reading 0... Good Luck with your cycle process. __________________ 75 [acronym:fc2c37ae44="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:fc2c37ae44] [acronym:fc2c37ae44="Saltwater"]SW[/acronym:fc2c37ae44] 55 [acronym:fc2c37ae44="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:fc2c37ae44] [acronym:fc2c37ae44="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:fc2c37ae44]

12-21-2004, 07:04 PM	#6
RMPD109 Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Rocky Mount VA Posts: 923	Cocktail shrimp are shrimp from the local food store. The kind for human consumption. You just need something that will decay and produce ammonia to cycle with. Be careful not to get seasoned shrimp or shrimp with additives. __________________ Vote for AquariumAdvice 28gal bowfront 40lbs livesand(bag from [acronym="Local Fish Store"]LFS[/acronym]), 30lbs live rock([acronym="Live rock"]LR[/acronym].com) 2 O. Clowns 1 peppermint shrimp, 5 red leg hermit crabs, 4 mexican turbo snails, 15 nassarius snails ricordea mushroom, candy cane coral, super color polyps, hairy mushrooms bubble coral, hawiian feather duster coralife lunar 2x65, HOT magnum canister 10 Gal refugium(chaeto) & seaclone skimmer

12-21-2004, 08:33 PM	#7
guitarded Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hawaii Posts: 204	yeah and don't forget the cocktail sauce!!! __________________ [acronym:8ab53f2802="Saltwater"]SW[/acronym:8ab53f2802] - 75 [acronym:8ab53f2802="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:8ab53f2802] Amiracle SL-350 Wet/Dry (no bio-balls) AquaC EV-180 Skimmer w/Mag 7 2ea Maxi-Jet 1200 & 2ea Maxi-Jet 900 [acronym:8ab53f2802="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:8ab53f2802] Captive Purity Refractometer w/Calibrator LCD Digital 250 W Titanium Heater 48in Coralife 4x65 watt [acronym:8ab53f2802="Power compact fluorescent"]PC[/acronym:8ab53f2802] Won Pro Heat II Tunz level alarm Approx. 200lbs Sand (3-4" [acronym:8ab53f2802="Deep Sand Bed"]DSB[/acronym:8ab53f2802]) [acronym:8ab53f2802="Reverse osmosis"]RO[/acronym:8ab53f2802]/[acronym:8ab53f2802="Deionization"]DI[/acronym:8ab53f2802] unit - 110 GPD Please feel free to advise me!

12-21-2004, 10:53 PM	#9
RMPD109 Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Rocky Mount VA Posts: 923	Yes, the [acronym:fe3c87a378="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:fe3c87a378] will as long as there is enough die off for your initial ammonia spike. The shrimp would just give you a good spike. __________________ Vote for AquariumAdvice 28gal bowfront 40lbs livesand(bag from [acronym="Local Fish Store"]LFS[/acronym]), 30lbs live rock([acronym="Live rock"]LR[/acronym].com) 2 O. Clowns 1 peppermint shrimp, 5 red leg hermit crabs, 4 mexican turbo snails, 15 nassarius snails ricordea mushroom, candy cane coral, super color polyps, hairy mushrooms bubble coral, hawiian feather duster coralife lunar 2x65, HOT magnum canister 10 Gal refugium(chaeto) & seaclone skimmer

12-19-2004, 03:37 PM	#4
petersolson Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bethel, Connecticut Posts: 12	Thanks to both of you for your replies. I have planned for three maxijet 1200s and two visitherm heaters. Will i need some additional form of filtration while waiting for all the rock to be live?

12-21-2004, 06:49 PM	#5
gregp Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MA Posts: 40	I hope I don't get blasted for this, but.... what exactly is a cocktail shrimp? Couldn't I just add a fire shrimp or two in the tank for the cycle?

12-21-2004, 10:05 PM	#8
arminkropp Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winnipeg,Manitoba,CANADA Posts: 365 Images: 5	Won't the [acronym:3ddb5b8ee4="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:3ddb5b8ee4] cycle the tank without the need for shrimp?

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
A little help estimating the plant quantity for new tank	teamgs	Freshwater & Brackish - Planted Tanks	15	11-02-2006 06:25 PM
Powerheads:Quantity,Placement,Model	jawfishjunky	Saltwater Fish Only & FOWLR	6	08-31-2006 07:00 PM
looking for small quantity LR...	newfound77951	Barter/Trade	0	07-24-2006 11:26 AM
Quantity of Bristleworms / Nitrate Levels	jhoelter	Saltwater & Reef - Archive	8	07-15-2004 11:41 AM
Lighting quantity question	NASCAR_Dave	DIY Projects	7	02-03-2004 07:41 PM