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Old 06-16-2005, 01:01 PM   #1
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Dealing with hot tap water in the summer

Here in the desert my tap water can get as hot as 86F+ right out of the tap! Currently my tank is right next to a sink and I'd rather not make buckets of water just so I can try and cool them down to room temperature, although I will do that if no other choice is available.

Anyone ever used ice while doing a water change in order to help keep the temperature down in the tank? The tank is a 110g so a 25% or so change isn't small. I'm not talking about dumping loads of ice in the tank, but a few cubes every couple of minutes near the incoming water to cool it.

The tank can climb to 84F almost immediately (from 79-80 where I keep it) when I do a water change and currently my thought is that this is a bad thing. If this is an incorrect assumption let me know.

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Old 06-16-2005, 01:51 PM   #2
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Does your tap water temp go down after the water has been running for a while? In other words, after you've gone thru the water in your house pipes and what is close to the surface, is the incoming water any cooler?

If not, what about freezing water in a small bottle (like a 20 oz plastic soda bottle) and putting your water in a bucket, cooling slightly with the ice bottle, then add to teh tank?
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Old 06-16-2005, 02:23 PM   #3
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When my tank randomly over heats I throw in a whole tray of ice cubes. I would imagine if you put water in buckets and some ice cubes and let it cool that way before putting it in the tank you'd be okay

but id10t already mentioned what i was thinking about the water getting cooler
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Old 06-16-2005, 02:37 PM   #4
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a big tank might be a blessing to you! you could do smaller 10% pwcs twice a week and see how that affects the temperature. you are right in assuming that these water changes are bad for the fish.
also, since you have clown loaches, it'll not be a bad idea to keep the tank temperature to even 81C. coupled with the 10-11g [acronym:d48da241eb="Partial water change"]pwc[/acronym:d48da241eb], you just might avoid a big temperature change.
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:01 PM   #5
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What about filling the sink with ice-water and running a copper coil from the faucet in the ice-water and hooking your python to that. The ice water in the sink should be able to cool the water running through the coil. Or use a bucket with the set-up.

Got this idea from my brother-in-law. Its how they cool beer when making home brew. It is very effective.
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:06 PM   #6
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I personally would use holding containers.. that way you could use declorinator on just the water you use instead of the entire tank<<<point of contention. and you could let it cool by sitting in the ACed room.. I know this it what your trying to avoid but with a pump it wouldnt be that tough you could plumb it to the tank and just have to power up the pump(s) in the holding drums/cans..
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wow, 86F, i was worried when mine got to 84F. fish can stand a little heat. especially my mollies. hardy lil fellas.
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i like the idea of putting the water in a bucket, putting some ice in it and letting them melt, adding the dechlorinator then putting the water in your tank...while your waitin for the ice to melt you can look at your fish!!
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the ice in sink around the coil that goes to the tank is an interesting idea. Other than that, I guess I'll just have to precondition the water. Thanks for all the replies! I really appreciate it.
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Old 06-16-2005, 10:04 PM   #10
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a big tank might be a blessing to you! you could do smaller 10% pwcs twice a week and see how that affects the temperature. you are right in assuming that these water changes are bad for the fish.
also, since you have clown loaches, it'll not be a bad idea to keep the tank temperature to even 81C. coupled with the 10-11g [acronym:f8439a1b56="Partial water change"]pwc[/acronym:f8439a1b56], you just might avoid a big temperature change.
I'm assuming you mean 81F? =) Right now I keep my tank at 80.8F, so it's not that far off. The poor little loaches get ich so easily that I really try to avoid the temperature swings as much as I can!

I might try the smaller water change thing more often, at least in the summer. I could handle that.

As for letting the faucet run a long time, it really doesn't matter. It stays that warm indefinitely as far as I can tell. In the summers here I don't evne have to use the hot water heater. Gotta love 120F Phoenix desert summers!
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