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Old 05-15-2011, 12:54 PM   #1
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First tank. :)

Hi, so this is my first tank since i was about 4 and my parents bought me goldfish!

So its an 8 gallon tank with a Fluval filter/pump. Ive got a ATMAN 100W heater, and a suction cup thermometer.

Tomorrow ill be getting fish (: excited much.

Anyway, for a couple of days ive been trying to get a roughly accurate 27*c water temp. But it keeps wildly fluctuating between 25.5 and nearly 29.

The tank is kept in my bedroom, which is small and usually warm. But how much does a couple of degrees matter with my fish?

Thanks
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Old 05-15-2011, 04:56 PM   #2
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Halcion. I'm sorry to tell you but that tank is entirely too small for goldfish. One goldfish needs 20 gal with an extra 10 gal per additional fish. Goldfish typically reach around 8" long (but can grow much bigger), depending on the type and can live 20 years if correctly taken care of. They are big eaters and big waste producers. You won't be able to keep the water clean in that small of a tank, even if you do water changes every day. Even though goldfish are coldwater fish, temperature fluctuations aren't good for them. I always keep a heater in my goldfish tank so that the temp is stable. I have a 55 gal tank with two orandas and a ryukin. I plan to get one more fish but even four fish in a tank my size is almost overstocked, although I do stay on top of water tests and changes.

Seriously, the only fish that you could keep in a tank that size would be one betta. Although I personally wouldn't keep a betta in anything smaller than a 10 gal. I have a betta with 3 african dwarf frogs, two bristlenose plecos and a couple of nerite snails in a 23 gal flatback hex tank.

Bigger tanks are much easier to care for. The larger volume of water gives you at least some room for error. Please don't put goldfish in that tank. If you have your heart set on goldies, can you take your tank back and get at least a 20 gal tank (for one fish)? Seriously, you won't be sorry. And whatever you do, do not get a common or a comet. They get very large and actually need to be kept in a pond.
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Old 05-15-2011, 05:38 PM   #3
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Hi, really sorry you misunderstood. My fault conpletely.

What i meant was that when i was younger my parents bought me goldies. Now im older im not into them, especially as we have some in a pond in the garden.

But thanks for the advice, and its great to know people out there care this much for fish welfare, which is good, considering its a fish website!

Thabks for the reply, but no worries, my tank will not become overstocked (:
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Old 05-15-2011, 06:04 PM   #4
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Oops. Sorry about that. Then you can disregard my PM Halcion! Goldfish are my absolute favorites and the people in the pet stores especially don't seem to know how to care for them or just don't care. One of my pet peeves is how most fish, but goldies and bettas in particular, are basically abused. Not always intentionally but it happens. Cool that you have a pond! I would LOVE to have a pond in my yard. Someday......

So what do you plan to put in an 8 gal tank?
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Old 05-15-2011, 07:08 PM   #5
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Dont worry, my fault completely!
And yeah, i think its that people dont realise the fragility of fish, and that their certain conditions must be met (:

And originally i had planned for 3 Ottos, and 4 Fancy guppies. But, when i got home this evening, (after id written the original post) i found that my gf had brought me a 55gallon tank for our anniversary! Needless to say i was overwhelmed and speechless!

So i intend to get a Red Tailed Black Shark, (because their amazingly cool) and im not sure what else.
And do you know about temperatures, because thats mostly whats concerning me atm :P

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Old 05-16-2011, 08:27 PM   #6
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Whoo hoo! Congrats! Thats wonderful. For the most part, you're usually pretty safe stickng with around 78 degrees. I have a rainbow shark, pretty similar to a red tail and I keep him, along with his tank mates, at 78.
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Okay thats really helpful thanks. Its tricky getting the right temperature, but it should be okay (:

So what do you keep in your tank? Because even rainbow sharks are quite picky ive heard? And especially red tailed, theyre hard to find tank mates for! :P
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A red tailed shark gets to 6 inches plus, I do not see this in an 8 gallon tank. You need to be looking at a betta or guppies or some other micro fish.
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Rich... If you'd read the thread you would see he has a 55 gallon for the shark.
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I only saw 8 gallon, sorry.
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