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Old 07-04-2004, 03:03 PM   #11
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Hmmm... right now I'm feeding these guys some generic Wardley's food and some Hikari cichlid pellets. I'm going to have to get Omega 1 and Spectrum for these guys. I think their color will be a lot better. Thanks for reminding me to do that!

The Bicolor 500 look absolutely nothing like the adults online at the moment. They're striped black and white! Look more like convicts. Kinda cool, but I sure hope they get some more color soon!

I guess I should take some pictures...
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Old 07-04-2004, 04:48 PM   #12
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The cichlids are new to me. I tried to look up a pic of what your Peacocks look like. I came up with 3 fish with that name.

Aulonocara baenschi Sunshine Peacock

Aulonocara hansbaenschi Firebird Cichlid, Peacock

Aulonocara stuartgranti Grant's Peacock
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Old 07-04-2004, 06:08 PM   #13
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"Peacocks" generally refers to Malawi cichlids from the genus Aulonocara. For some reason, these tend to a) have very vivid coloration and b) show 2+ bright colors on their body (as opposed, say, to an electric blue haplochromid).

They also all tend to be quite small (between 3 and 6 inches), and relatively non-aggressive. Malawicichlids.com has some good info if you want to look them up there.
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Old 07-04-2004, 07:45 PM   #14
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One of mine is almost solid blue, like the ahli, but it might show up with some other colors as he matures. The black one is just stunning, with red fins. I am often asked if it is a SW tank, especially with the labs and their vivid yellow - I am definitely seeing a difference since the Spectrum food, and my Boesmani's in my community tank are coloring up very well after starting that tank on the Spectrum community pellet (I crush it a little so it floats better).
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Old 07-05-2004, 02:07 AM   #15
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Right on. I'll order some soon!
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Old 07-10-2004, 04:02 AM   #16
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for some odd reason the 3 lfs I have been to don't have Kribs. No keyholes either. See lots of Yellow labs and some peacocks. I see tanks marked assorted small cichlids. Not knowing much I stay away from them.

Is the Auratus a mbuna? lfs have them too.
Saw some Australian Rainbows also.
I find it hard dealing with scientific names.
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Old 07-10-2004, 12:33 PM   #17
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Yes, the Auratus are mbuna, and one of the more aggressive. I too have been asking about keyholes and my fave LFS says he has not seen them in a while. Guess that's what I need to start breeding next, LOL!

Yellow labs and peacocks abound here, as well, so no mystery why that is what I have now!

As far as scientific names go, it is very confusing, I agree. Some names that are commonly used now, like kribensis, for example (Pelvicachromis pulcher) are not exactly correct, so you have to stay on top of the nomenclature changes. Over time, though, as you see fish at the LFS with their scientific names, and on the web, you will start to learn the names. I use Google a lot if I am not sure.

Another problem with the "mixed African" tanks of cichlids is that these are almost always juveniles, and many will have completely different coloration once they mature, so you have to know what they look like as juvies (which can look like the adult form of a completely different fish ). I feel your pain!
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Also, very few of the African Cichlid species are aggreed upon in terms of nomenclature. They started out calling a lot of them haplochromis ____, and then disregarded the name (though it stuck as the name of the "flock" of free-swimming, omnivorous/carnivorous cichlids in Lake Malawi), and are constantly changing phylogenies after genetic analysis shows that certain species are more or less related than thought. Argh!

And then, some of the species have different color morphs even at the adult stage. The obvious example is the yellow lab, Labidochromis caeruleus. You look at the lab, you look at the name, hunh? "Caeruleus" means "blue", so how can this name refer to this fish?? Well, the first L. caeruleus found *were* caerulean blue. Subsequent members of the same species were found with the yellow/black marking. Confusing!

And, even worse, the line that divides the species in these lakes is always so incredibly fine, as they have developed so quickly (in under 12,000 years they speciated from 2 species to something like 1000 http://www.evolution.bio.titech.ac.j...cichlid_e.html ) that a lot of the species can interbreed and even produce viable offspring... which will look even more different.

But I do my darndest to learn all the Latin names of the Africans, as that's really the only way to go for identifying species.
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Well I scratched Auratus off my list.
The apistogramma cacatuoides or cockatoo/crested is listed as one of the few SA cichlids that likes hard water so it went on my list.
The Asian cichlid Etroplus maculatus or orange chromide is on the list too. So those along with krib, keyhole and peacocks on the list I should find something. Hopefully by next weekend the tanks nitrites will have settled down and can finally add more fish. Will hit the stores with list in hand.
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I posted this in the Show Off forum but thought I would put the pic here - it is the only pic I can get, and of the only peacock that does not hide from the camera. Not sure what it is going to wind up looking like, it actually has rather a lot of orange on it that does not show up on the pic, mostly caudally and ventrally, as well as a splotch between its eyes.
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