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Old 07-09-2011, 11:53 AM   #51
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Sorry to say but a 50% PWC will only remove 1/2 of the nitrate. I suggest you do 2x 50% PWCs.

Did you get a test kit?
Yup, got the api master kit. I done 50% change 2 hours ago.
When should I do the next?

Are the nitrate levels really bad? Or just a bit too high?
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Old 07-09-2011, 12:06 PM   #52
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Yup, got the api master kit. I done 50% change 2 hours ago.
When should I do the next?

Are the nitrate levels really bad? Or just a bit too high?
I'd leave it another hour then retest the nitrate (that test is the hardest to do - you really need to shake the cr@p out of the 2nd bottle for at least 30 seconds before you add the 2nd drops or the test will very inaccurate).
Post that result and we'll decide on what % to change then.
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Was told when tested earlier to do the 50% change and leave it for a day or two.

Or was he lying??
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Old 07-09-2011, 12:50 PM   #54
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Was told when tested earlier to do the 50% change and leave it for a day or two.

Or was he lying??
It takes up to 3 hours for the new water to completely mix at which point you can retest.

On the whole, assistants at aquatics shops give you the easy answer, easy for them and/or easy for you, but not always the best/correct answer. (obviously this is not the same for ALL assistants and all shops!)
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Old 07-09-2011, 01:00 PM   #55
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Was told when tested earlier to do the 50% change and leave it for a day or two.

Or was he lying??
I can't believe I'm about to agree with a lfs, but there may actually be some truth behind his recommendation. I have read articles citing the fact that fish who have been exposed to prolonged high levels of no3 can actually be prone to "nitrAte shock" if the levels are changed too rapidly. Normally it would be the opposite direction where if they are put in an environment which is substantially higher than the previous, but I've also seen evidence that any dramatic swings, even for the better, can be an issue.

That said, 80-100 is high, but I'm not sure I'd call it overly extreme. I agree that a 50% pwc now, another 50% later today, and the same tomorrow (if necessary) would be perfectly fine.
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I can't believe I'm about to agree with a lfs, but there may actually be some truth behind his recommendation. I have read articles citing the fact that fish who have been exposed to prolonged high levels of no3 can actually be prone to "nitrAte shock" if the levels are changed too rapidly. Normally it would be the opposite direction where if they are put in an environment which is substantially higher than the previous, but I've also seen evidence that any dramatic swings, even for the better, can be an issue.

That said, 80-100 is high, but I'm not sure I'd call it overly extreme. I agree that a 50% pwc now, another 50% later today, and the same tomorrow (if necessary) would be perfectly fine.
Ok, I'll do a test in a little while. I don't suppose any of you are on facebook? As have problems gettin on here, and the wait is dragging. So just wondered if any1 has it to talk easier. Inbox me if poss. But will post results as soon as. Iv only got to test nitrates yes?
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It never hurts to test everything, but if you said that ammo and no2 are at zero, then nitrAtes are what we need to know.

Your goal will be to get them down to 20 or below. To be on the safe side, I'd do 2 50% pwc's today, and 2 more tomorrow if necessary to get them down to that level.

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Tests done, turns out my tap water is a bit high on nitrates. As far as I can remember nitrates were 60. Couldn't get on here all night and most of today . But have been told live plants can help. Ammonia and nitrite were 0.

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Tests done, turns out my tap water is a bit high on nitrates. As far as I can remember nitrates were 60. Couldn't get on here all night and most of today . But have been told live plants can help. Ammonia and nitrite were 0.

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The only efficient ways that nitrAte is removed from an aquarium is by water changes and by plants. Normally we do ~25% weekly water changes to keep the nitrAtes at 20 or below.

Plants will help keep your nitrAte level down, but is not a replacement for water changes. Weekly pwc's should still be done to refresh the water with nutrients and buffers as well as helping keep the tank clean.
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Ok, so if I get plants will they take root in gravel?? (3inchs of gravel). Not going to be a problem with water changing. Easy to do . Fish are still fine . And 1 platy is pregnant.
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