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Old 06-03-2013, 06:01 PM   #21
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Do water changes until the ammonia and nitrite is zero and then test daily. If the ammonia and nitrite goes up again repeat the process. Ammonia is very dangerous to fish and can kill them quickly
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:03 PM   #22
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Yes ik do you think I should get rid of my 4 dammels or my puffer...I know eventually ill need to get rid of him but right now I'm saying
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:20 PM   #23
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I think you need to get rid of some of them. Probably about half of what you have. When you see these awesome tanks with tons of fish in, you should also know that these tanks have a lot of expensive equipment and maintainance to keep the tank clean and the fish alive. The puffers tangs and trigger will outgrow your tank quickly. So either get rid of them now or later. Puffers need about 180 gallon tank and most triggers do too. So the choice is yours. But if you want to keep the fish alive for now it will take a lot of work and money
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Old 06-03-2013, 08:33 PM   #24
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I realize that you want all of this cool stuff (fish, crabs, etc.), but you really need to research online about saltwater aquariums. I don't know if your friend has a saltwater tank, but he isn't helping you out so far. I'm sure he means well, but he may not have the knowledge needed for saltwater. I worked in a pet store years ago and had freshwater tanks. Back then, I simply assumed I could treat a salt tank like fresh and didn't really know the first thing about the importance if maintenance, equipment, water testing, etc. I didn't have to do much to a freshwater tank, and they did fine. Then I got a salt tank. Talk about change. Algae problems, fish dying, wasted money everywhere I turned, and provided a horrible habitat for the fish. It took a while (and the invention of the Internet) before I truly felt like I knew what I was doing. Good luck to you and hope you start reading about saltwater tanks and the environment each fish you'd like to purchase needs.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:00 PM   #25
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Wow...its already been pointed out, but almost all those fish are a bad idea for that small a tank. The puffer, Tangs, Foxface, Trigger are never going to thrive in a tank that small. That would be pushing it in a larger tank.

Friend, or not, you are being given terrible advice by the LFS. If you can't afford a skimmer, then how will you be able to afford a tank upgrade? You are looking at least a 120 gallon to hold some of those fish, larger for others. Odds are they won't make it to a larger size in the current conditions.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:42 PM   #26
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I agree with everyone research before you buy...A lot of times if I want a fish or coral i'll have my lfs hold it until I get home and research it to see if its safe for my setup....never trust you lfs they want to make a sale...I wasted $210 on lighting trusting my lfs....never again....a skimmer is very important I would not add fish till I get a good one mine is a reef octopus and I researched for a week before I bought one...the fish stated in the threads above do not need to be together or in a 55 gal. tank. I hope you know the foxface has poisonous spines so be careful.....you have to research a lot of fish and corals can make you sick or even kill you....Puffer fish have poisonous toxins too.. read this link..blowfish
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:13 PM   #27
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Where are you approx in FL? You don't have to give exact location. FL is awesome for aquarium stores, you've gotta have another to get your advice from. AND rock is sooooo easy to find on beaches, you just gotta cure it & I'm no expert, but you need a lot more as the other posters have said--heck, I need more too! And I was gonna say... CRAIGSLIST, whatev you need for equipment, check out there AND Goodwill, thrift stores, etc. Humane Society/animal rescue thrift stores are hotbeds for aquarium stuff. Call me the thrifty aquarium person!! Good luck man!!
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:58 AM   #28
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I agree with all the advice given so far - you definitely need much more rock to assist with your filtration and if it was me I would ditch the canister altogether unless you are cleaning it every couple of days. Invest in a skimmer for sure. The puffer would have eaten your crab and he will eat the others too along with all the snails. Return the tangs even if you think they are small now they will not survive in your tank long term. I also have a 55g and there are plenty of other fishes that will thrive in your tank for now you need to be testing your water daily and doing some PWC to bring those levels back in check...
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Old 06-04-2013, 01:24 AM   #29
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I got rid of my puffer because he kept going after my clown..I basically swap him for a flame angel which you only need a minimum 50gal tank for. And listen I understand my tangs and trigger are gonna get bigger and a lot bigger there gonna grow according to the size of the tank and conditions and things like that..and I'm a little tight on money now! To get a skimmer not few months from now or even a year that's when I'm gonna upgrade to a bigger tank a least double the size so I can keep those fish and I bought more rock today to help it out a bit from here on out it's just LR and food ill need to buy and a little maintenance..I have done I research on all my fish I know the tanks they need and the environment
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Old 06-04-2013, 01:30 AM   #30
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Contrary to popular belief, fish do not grow to the size of your tank surroundings. I'd return the large fish now before they stress out and kill all your livestock.

If you don't have $ to spare for a skimmer, all the more reason to keep smaller fish and only a few fish. This will allow you to keep parameters in check by simple water changes.

.... just trying to save you more $$$ in the long run.
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