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Old 03-15-2005, 01:38 AM   #1
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Best filtration?

I'm looking at a 65 gal FOWLR, with 2 to 3 inches of sand. A friend told me the best bet would be a wet/dry filter with bioballs and a protien skimmer. What do you think? Is that better than the canister filters?
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Old 03-15-2005, 03:09 AM   #2
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thats what i run right now and it works great.
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lol i just looked at what i wrote sorry... i use a wet/dry system and it works great. i got one with a built in skimmer from pro clear aquatics and tank is up and running smoothly
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Many here will say that canister or HOB filters are nitrate farms (and they can be if you don't clean the sponges). The bioballs can also harbor lots of stuff that could cause nitrate spikes. If you keep things clean and do regular water changes you will do fine either way. I personally have an penguin 170 (came with tank) a Fluval 104 with sponges, two compartments with carbon and a compartment with the ceramic bio things). Remember to keep it clean though.

The preferred method here (correct me if I am wrong fellas) is using live rock rubble in a sump (kind of a bio ball substitute). The rubble would be completely submerged though. Over 10 years ago when I did sw the first time I believe this method was called the BERLIN method... http://www.berlinmethod.com/overview.html
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Old 03-15-2005, 10:33 AM   #5
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Live rock is the best filtration... do you plan on getting any??? 65 lbs would be a good start.
I like a Sump over a w/D... No bio balls to trap waste and create NO3 and adds water volume and a place for heater, skimmer...
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Live rock is the best filtration... do you plan on getting any??? 65 lbs would be a good start.
I like a Sump over a w/D... No bio balls to trap waste and create NO3 and adds water volume and a place for heater, skimmer...
Yes, I definately plan on doing live rock. What exactly do you mean by a sump over a W/D? Is this something for the newbie like myself? Do you have any diagrams? Is the bioball method out of date?
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Instead of using bio balls you use live rock rubble, but you have to keep them completely submerged. Lr rubble is much better because bioballs cause nitrate to rise, and lr rubble gives pods a great place to grow. I'm not sure what Seaham meant by 'Sump over a w/d', I have my w/d in my sump.

Here is a website for a great DIY w/d and sump: http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/wetdry.htm
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I think he meant that he perferred sumps more than W/D systems.
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Yes I prefer sumps, sumps and W/D are 2 different things.... they both work in similar ways but a sump has no Bioballs which IMO are out dated and can trap waste causing some other issues.
superskimmer.com is a site that makes sumps, check it out so you know what Im talking about.
I like having nothing in my sumps except equipment, skimmer, heater, pumps. IMO LR rubble can and will trap waste just like BB, so I have my LR in my tank and fuge.
Either one is much better then a canister filter. With these you will need to have a drilled tank or a overflow box, with a canister you won't.
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The best wet dry system

The best wet dry system and overflow that I have found is from www.aquaplumbers.com they are also very helpful. Add a protein skimmer and you will have one of the best tanks around!
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