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Old 01-24-2013, 12:24 AM   #11
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I'm useing the sea clone 150 on my 20 gal so I'm thinking of useing that and getting a 40 gal turning my 20 into a refuge
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:35 AM   #12
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Refugiums are great.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:57 AM   #13
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I've had two FOWLR tanks with bio-balls in the built-in filtration in the back (not a sump underneath type). Both tanks had ZERO problems with nitrates...ever To me, I do not understand how live rock/rubble would catch less than the balls. I'd think lots of small rock would catch all sorts of detritus.

I have mine set up slightly different than factory now, versus my completely stock setup many years ago. Now, the water comes from my tank into the first of three chambers. Nothing exciting in there. The water goes from that chamber into the second chamber from the top. I believe that normally has a plastic trickle plate where the water drips down into the bio balls. I replaced that plate with a big sponge. That catches all the waste and I clean that out every week or two. Maybe that "catching the detritus" saves the bioballs from becoming nitrate factories? That water goes into the third chamber from the bottom and is pumped back out into the tank. My Trates are always at close to zero.

I've considered adding something like cheato into the third chamber, but not sure if it would get enough light and whether I should mess that is working for me now.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:14 AM   #14
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That's good to know, my tank has only been running salt for 3 weeks now. So I'm not gonna mess with anything right now.

Water runs thought a fine filter pad in the drip tray and then trickles over the bio balls then to the return. It's working good right now so maybe I will just leave it until it doesn't work any more.
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I have a slight lingering nitrate around 10 - 20ppm I vodka dose and wc every week. I'm thinking my problem lies someware in my bio balls or sump some wqr
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:30 AM   #16
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Vodka? What does that do?
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:42 AM   #17
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It helps a benifical bacteria that eats nitrates and the ethynol lowers oxygen in the water and reduces algae growth. You only use a small small amount my 20 gal just over 25 with sump then add a little water displacement rounds back to about 20 gals so I use 5 to 8 drops depending on how bad the algae blooms
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You also need to be running your protien skimmed I forgot to add
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:09 PM   #19
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Ohhh, nice I'm gonna have to remember that. Thanks
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:11 PM   #20
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It's pretty crazy to see how much junk starts collecting in your skimmer
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