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Old 10-26-2012, 01:05 PM   #11
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There was a sharp decline when they died.

The clowns seemed happy as can be for at least a week then one stopped eating and died a couple days later and the next one followed.

They were pretty small, the clowns were around an inch and the coral beauty was just over an inch

The whole "new tank bio load" thing seems bogus because again all the inverts are flourishing and I did go relatively slow.
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Old 10-26-2012, 02:30 PM   #12
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The whole "new tank bio load" thing seems bogus because again all the inverts are flourishing and I did go relatively slow.
First of all no one here will steer you wrong
We all went through what you are facing now one time or another . no one wants to see anyone fail ,
If I ignored the bio load issues when I started I wouldn't have the striving tank I have today ..
you can achieve the same thing , it's called patients
rushing through all the procedures to maintain a healthy tank don't happen over night , your tank is young and it has minimal needed bacteria to handle the load .
When I started I had a clown and clean up crew , I ran my system this way almost 2/12 months letting the bacteria needed build ,

example:
you added a CUC than 2 clowns your load was diminished ,

you just took the bio load you had and made it drop to almost nothing (it's like 100% - 20% for your CUC - 75% for the 2 clowns = 5% load left adding the coral beauty took another 50%)
now if you look at it in that form you may understand better , now your in the negative 45%

it needs time to rebuild at least a few weeks 3/4 minimal

by adding the coral beauty that soon overloaded the tank causing tragic and costly losses

salt water is not as hard to keep as many say ,

IMO the hardest part is taking your time and waiting !!!
If I rushed through it all on my tank I wouldn't have the tank I have today ,
If the bio load theory was bogus why is it many have success and your having the issues!!
it's not rocket science

many people go through this it's not just you
research is your best friend

we all are here to help you get it right the first time
saltwater is not a cheap hobby and we know the frustration of losing a fish
ask questions

(The my way is the only way attitude) will result in many more lost fish I'm sorry to say
we want you to succeed and have a tank you can be proud of . with minimal loss of live stock

I have well over 40 years of fish keeping experience and I still need to ask for help at times
and with everyone here theirs many more years of experience if you put it all together

I hope you understand what I'm trying to explain

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Old 10-26-2012, 02:36 PM   #13
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But wouldn't inverts die before fish (in most cases) if parameters were out of whack? His seem pretty okay though. If there was not enough BB, and too much bio load, wouldn't the parameters be worse? If anything, it seems like everything should be dead with too high of a bio load and not just the fish. At least the snails and shrimp. That's kinda the way I've always understood it, but I'm no expert.
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I remember my first nano about a year ago and i had so many problems with it.

Personally i think you would have an easier ride if your tank was bigger. Best decision i ever made was getting rid of the old little tank and getting a decent size one.
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I generally add about one fish a month.

Only time I broke that rule was when I added two clowns.
But I already had fish and coral going well when I did that so it went okay.
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I agree about your temperature. It would be better at 78.

How are you acclimating them? It could also be a problem at the fish shop. Some places are much better than others.
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Thanks for all the insight everyone, it's been very helpful

Question: If the bio load did in fact exceed my tanks ability wouldn't that show when testing water parameters?
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:26 PM   #19
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Huh

Ok then maybe I am all wrong.

How can you measure the strength of a systems beneficial bacteria?
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:52 PM   #20
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I must be all wrong too. I would expect that if your bio load overwhelms your beneficial bacteria, you would end up with something in excess in your parameters. Otherwise, what is the new factor that is killing the fish?
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