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Old 10-08-2009, 11:39 PM   #11
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yes.. thats what decided to do.. just do fish and live rock, save the coral for a later date....

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Old 10-09-2009, 01:36 AM   #12
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yes i read through that stock list, that was what confused me, as it contradicted other peoples opinions, hence my confusion on some aspects...
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Wow, that article on Reefkeeping.com is great! I've learned quite a bit about my skimmer. Thanks.
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Ok well anyways.. there's some pretty straight forward comments going around here, and some of which are not at all necessary depending on what kind of livestock you will have in the tank.

For one thing, lighting is definitely not a must. If you plan to just have fish and live rock for a good amount of time, then the light fixture you currently have will do just fine. It is only when you start to wander in to the realm of corals will you need a better lighting solution. I'm guessing your using the 75G tank, so with a tank that deep you are going to want to look for T5 High Output light fixtures. I have a 55G tank myself, and from what i have learned, 75G tanks and 55G tanks are relatively around the same depth. So whether you are going with your 55G or your 75G you are going to need strong lighting. Generally speaking, T5 HO's are considered pretty cheap for the amount of light they produce and their effectiveness at keeping coral alive and healthy.(Assuming you have the proper light fixture over your tank.) Then, we have the metal halides which are boatloads of money... but you are getting what you pay for. Metal Halides produce great quantities of light and apparently, they give a wider spectrum of light which is better for the corals.. or so i've been told. Metal Halides are really expensive, so if you are on a budget they certainly wont be anywhere in that budget haha.

Just something to note for future reference.. Assuming your 75 or 55G tank is close to 20" deep or higher, not matter what light fixture you end up bying, you will need to find one with a generally high wattage. If you want to have a wide variety of coral you are able to keep alive in your tank, look for fixtures that have over 320Watts. I have the "Current USA, Nova Extreme Pro" which is a 6-bulb T5 HO fixture with each bulb being 54Watts. Now this is over a 55G tank with a depth of 21".. and with this fixture i can keep alive just about any coral, including anemones which need very strong lighting to live comfortably. Just something to consider.

On another thing, protein skimmers are HIGHLY reccomended for any tanks over 40G so it would be in yours and your tanks best interest to buy a protein skimmer as well as not slack on the one that you buy. Your tanks have A LOT of water, and an efficient protein skimmer is a must if you want that water to be clean and your livestock happy and healthy. Some of the cheaper but well-made skimmers are "Reef Octopus" skimmers, CPR skimmers, and a couple other ones i forgot the names of. Whatever you do, stay away from the skimmers named "SEACLONE". These skimmers are horribly made, are cheap, and usually break in a short period of time and ends up causing you to spend more money on a better skimmer which should have been done in the first place and would have saved you money. It just is not worth it to get a crappy skimmer.. just because it's cheap. Stay away from the ones you see on ebay for 30 or 40 dollars, because they will wind up giving you more headaches then results. Definitely do not slack in the protein skimmer department.

Another thing... You said you used "natural gravel"? What is that? Is that like the gravel that is found in freshwater tanks? They look like the ugly vibrant colored gravel for fish tanks.. except without the vibrant color? Haha. First off, it is good that you put a decent layer of sand over it.. but what will happen if you decide to get inverts that burrow in the sand? They will start to dig through the sand, and all of that gravel will begin to get pushed to the surface and will accumulate and cause nitrate problems in your tank. Now, it really does not seem like a life or death situation at this point.. or even in the near future.. But if you plan to keep this tank long-term and you plan to have some interesting and diverse creatures in there.. you might want to consider removing the gravel later on and replacing it completely with sand. It's better for the tanks ecosystem as well as its inhabitants.

Also.. Don't feel pressured like you HAVE to buy an RO/DI unit. It is definitely not one of the most important components of a saltwater tank, and saltwater aquarists have survived for years without one. Is it a good investment? Yes. Will it make all the boo-boos go away? No. It will definitely help in the elimination of unwanted metals and other elements that may cause algae growth and other growths, but i know other people including myself that use RO/DI water and still have some issues regarding algae and other wierd looking things that grow all over the tank. In my opinion, getting an RO/DI unit is a sound idea and great investment, or even using RO water from supermarkets or pet stores, BUT if you are on a budget with this tank it surely is not a must.

Good Luck and remember to come back with more questions.
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zero... thanks... that helps a bit... seems a lot of guides etc assume the reader is out to produce the great coral reef in their living room right away, which i am not..
the 75g is currently tropical, id love to use it for the salt, but the fish in there have grown beyond a 55gallon capacity.. balas are about 6 inches already and still growing.. so swapping would not be good for them.. and i grown attached to the lil sharkys....
so the 55gallon is the salt.. it is standard depth though, 21"... the lighting, i doubt is going to be adequate either way. it is only a single T8 bulb.... i have considered swapping out with the 75g which uses 2, but i will probably have to upgrade.. however the entire thing was used for salt water before, it was given to me since it developed a leak.. leak been fixed, its been tested and confident in the repair, but he managed to keep salt water alive with just that single light... how good it was, i dont know, i never saw it set up.. the coral he gave me had been dry for months so is dead as a door nail now.. but i will upgrade the lighting... i have advantage of i dot need to use a special tank hood, since i can mount any light i want under there, it cant be seen... so thinking shop light with high output ballast and bulbs.. dont know research be needed...

protein skimmer iw ill have to invest in yes.. that much seems to be a common opinion...

natural gravel... it is actual gravel... not the small fake stuff for freshwater.. pebbles i guess... natural color.. i know salt water and sand would not go well with colored gravel and would make a mess... it was well cleaned and not just picked up from a quarry... its been in a tank before and this time it was left in a weak bleach solution for a few hours and then rinsed 5 or 6 times.. (much to the disgust of the girlfriend since i used the bathtub)
i dont plan on keeping it in there... just acting as a filler for now... once i know what im going to do and decided on final set up, i will start replacing it with sand.

RO/DI will come later... although on that note, i havnt actually done anything yet, wasnt sure, but, when using tap water... is it ok to use the chemicals you would in a fresh tank, that eliminate chlorine etc... 'stress coat' for instance? i know they say it safe for all fish and tanks, but i take that as what it is, marketing...

i think we have decided, for now, it will be fish and rock... partly because coral is something that obviously needs a high investment and also, i think be too much to take on straight away..

one last question.... the old coral i have, which i know is dead and so forth now... but, is it ok to put that in the tank? dont expect it to amount to anything, just more for decoration than anything... that be ok or is there side effects to doing that?
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If it's dry now, and you add it to the tank, it may cause an ammonia spike from anything dead still stuck to it.
Of course if your just starting a saltwater tank it would be perfect to cycle the tank with your other LR.

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