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Old 12-06-2013, 12:30 PM   #1
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Dwarf angels

Hey guys. I have done plenty of research on this and it's not advised that dwarf angels be kept together because they can be aggressive in nature.

But I have seen it done before and they are my favorite fish and would love to give this a try.

I have a 75 gal fowlr tank with plenty of live rock for hiding places. They would be the last two fish I introduce. I would love to get a bi color angel and a flame angel. My question is...should I introduce both to the tank at the same time? Or should I get the bi color first and introduce him and let him get established in the tank first followed by the flame angel because flames can be even more aggressive?

That is my real question and what I can't seem to find consistent suggestions on. Some people say do the less aggressive (bi color) first to let him establish himself in the tank, and some people say do them together at the same time so that neither has established territory

Anyone ever done this that could give me advice? Or anyone have advice?
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:39 PM   #2
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Try to put the flame in last. The bicolor can be tough to keep and will waste away if they are too stressed so I wouldn't risk putting it with a flame unless your tank is over 100 gallons. Try a coral beauty or flameback instead...
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:56 PM   #3
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A coral beauty with the flame angel? Aren't they too similar in color? And could really be aggressive?
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:57 PM   #4
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This guy has a few dwarfs including a flame and bicolor, but as you can see his tank is enormous...

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Old 12-06-2013, 12:57 PM   #5
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And I haven't purchased anything yet still inquiring and researching
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:00 PM   #6
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They are similar in size not color. the cb is hardier than the bicolor in my opinion, and can hold its own if the flame starts to be a bully.
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:20 PM   #7
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In my opinion I would add them at the same time so that the fish don't establish themselves in a territory before the other ones added it's the same as adding two of the same fish should always add them at the same time
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:42 PM   #8
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I believe you misunderstood my message. I know the bicolor and the coral beauty are not similar in color. But aren't the coral beauty and the flame to similar being purple and red respectively?
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With dwarfs, the color seems to mean less than the body shape. In my 300 I have three dwarfs, all older than 10 years. A coral beauty, a black tail (blue line) and a flame. They do not like each other, but in a big enough tank they can coexist. If the pursued fish gets trapped, then there will be a death or at least a damaged fish. The flame is at the bottom of the pecking order, then the black tail and the boss is the 15 year old coral beauty.
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Old 12-06-2013, 04:12 PM   #10
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The advice given to me by Andy Sager (who strikes me as knowing his stuff) was that with Angels, it is best to try to get them from different oceans and different families. I think all dwarfs are Centropyge, so you are limited to different oceans working better. For larger Angels, you have more of a mix, so if you went with two, you would want one Holacanthus plus a Pomacanthus or a Genicanthus. Put them in together and ideally have two different rock structures, so hopefully each picks one as a home.

I'm going to try two dwarfs and two large in my 240g.
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