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Old 12-05-2010, 10:19 PM   #1
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Question First FOWLR/Marine

So Ive been a aquarium enthusiast for about 3 years now, (fresh water)
Ive now decided to tank it to salt water..now that Ive donated my freshwater fish and everything I dont need. Within a few weeks im planning on starting from scratch, I plan on having a Fowlr around 80 - 100 gallon but i only have basic knowledge, I am currently in the works of creating a sump/refugim, (30G) and im just looking for some useful tips and advice, on these subjects


1. Drilling for Piping details (where to drill, and how big..)
2. best protein skimmer for this size.. and best price
3. Live rock.. whats the best way to do it, Buy dry/dead rock and then some cured live rock to seed? (who really wants to pay 7 buckaroos a lb if they dont have to)
4. what should my sump contain? (how many chambers and what they should host) I know im asking for alot, but i want to start cycling my live rock as soon as possible|

Thanks guys I will be posting photos of my progress
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Old 12-05-2010, 10:24 PM   #2
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I don't have any experience with sumps so I'm not much help there, but I can tell you that for the live rock I would go with a mix of dry and live to save money like you said.
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Great, I just wanted to hear that from someone who has actually done just that. My local fish store suggested all cured because half and half just wouldnt work haha (of course $$) thanks !!
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i wouldn't' buy cured rock from the lfs. it's the most expensive. i would buy all dry rock or drop shipped uncured rock and cure it in the tank.

the skimmer i would use is something like this-
Reef Octopus Extreme 160 Protein Skimmer by CoralVue* - AquaCave
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Reef Octopus Extreme 200 Protein Skimmer by CoralVue* - AquaCave
you only need to drill one hole in the back of the tank about 4" down and about 4" away from the corner. the hole size depends on what size bulkhead you intend to use. i always like to go with a glass holes overflow. they come with the bit and all-
Complete Overflow Kits - Glass-Holes.com dope aquarium stuff

sump- 3 compartments: intake with skimmer, refugium (if you want one) and the third chamber will be the return.
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Old 12-05-2010, 11:23 PM   #5
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Thank you !!!
Im utilizing the aquarium I already have for the sump, (30G)
Im just curious what do you think the total cost will be to do this setup (anywhere I can DIY, I will be.) Im just wondering general costs of
the PVC required

and is there anywhere I can find a resource list of things I must have (to better budget myself)
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Old 12-06-2010, 12:26 AM   #6
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OH, Im actually interested in drilling the entry/returns from the bottom of the Display tank, any input/advice on that? I figure if im going to do it , i wanna do it right and aesthetically pleasing as well as functional?
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that's a mistake. most tanks have tempered bottoms, and even if it doesn't, and the bulkhead starts to leak, you'll have to drain and empty the entire tank to correct it.
the most aesthetically pleasing is the glass holes overflow box. they are low profile. a standpipe inside the tank will look ugly IMO.
here is a standpipe i installed on a tank coming up from the bottom. i did this only because there was already a hole in the bottom. this was just a frag tank and not a display(just to give you an idea on how it's going to look-

i wouldn't drill any returns. why put extra holes in the tank if you don't need to? more chances to leak. i would come over the top with the return(s).

the cost of pvc to do this? i dunno...20 bucks?
to find a resource list of things you must have, you'll have to decide on how you want to go with this.
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Okay. so ive decided I am going with a 70 gallon Aquarium,with a 30 gallon sump. I plan on drilling both the over flow and return, (bottom back pane) I am just wonder what anyones personal suggestion size the pvc/bulkhead should be?
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you should not drill at the bottom of the tank. it's a big mistake. what is your reasoning behind this?

a 1.5" drain and a 1" return is fine for your system.
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I just mean im going to drill at the back of the tank near the bottom, then have the linear of the pvc going up towards the water level, and possibly the same with the return, I just really really hate the look of white pvc (rather have some coraline on it ) being behind the tank, so the less the better
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