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Old 03-21-2005, 02:11 PM   #11
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OK, consensus.. how long each day should we run the lights as to diminish the algae, but keep the live rock in good shape?

We don't test each gallon of distilled separately, but test the whole batch of SW once it has mixed for 24 hours. In addition to the normal ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, we also test for Phosphates and Silicates using the Seachem tests.

Assuming anything is possibly, we might have grabbed a jug of Spring Water off the Walmart shelf when buying our distilled water. We are usually pretty careful, but I guess everyone makes mistakes. Since we cannot think of ANY other reason for this algae bloom, maybe that's it.

We just put the LR rubble in the canister on Saturday, per advice rec'd here. I don't really feel like switching it back to the tank already. Is there any harm in leaving it like that for a while?

If you were me, which would you do to solve your green water problem? Assuming you could only choose one, since the wallet is not bottomless here (by the way, you know that saying about boats, if you have to ask you can't afford it? That should be the motto for Salt Water Aquariums!!)

1. diatom filter?
2. uv sterilizer?
3. RO/DI unit - which probably won't even help at this point, but might prevent future issues.

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Old 03-21-2005, 08:00 PM   #12
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ro/di and lots of water changes
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Old 03-21-2005, 11:27 PM   #13
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Just got back form the LFS. They retested the water and all is perfect. They are just as stumped as me. They were sure they were going to find high nitrites (over feeding) or phosphates. They found neither.

They did try to convince me to buy either a UV Sterilizer or a Diatom filter. They said it MIGHT help. I didn't want to do it until I got some opinions here. They did suggest the two brands I am currently thinking of getting (Coralife for the UV and Vortex for the Diatom). I can't do both. Which should I get? Should I start a new thread looing for opinions?

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Old 03-22-2005, 11:53 AM   #14
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Some how we need to figure out why you have a bloom... Water tests are all ok.
IMO both will help clean the water... IMO a diatom will do it faster and only needs to be ran when you have a problem. You also need the diatom powder that goes with it.
A UV will kill free floating algae and you need to follow the flow rate for the unit you get so it will work correctly. Having no sump you will need to get a hang on back type of UV, you will also need a power head just for the UV. You maybe able to have it hooked up to the canister if the flow rate is not too high.
UV will help kill any paracites in the tank that pass through it , but a Diatom can also aid in this by catching them in the filter.
Do a google search for the diatom filter. I just got one from petsmart and they had some good prices on them.
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Old 03-22-2005, 12:16 PM   #15
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If I order a diatom filter I will probably order from www.diatomfilters.com which is a subsidiary of Aquatic-Store.com

They seem to have great prices.. the best I've seen. I don't know whether to get the Vortex D-1 Diatom Filter w/ Stand for $66.99 (which does up to 55 gallon tank) or the Vortex XL Diatom Filter for $89.90 (which does 55 and above). I have a 55 gallon tank, so I am right on the border. Is this one of those things were more power is better? They also sell the Diatom Filter Powder in 1, 3 and 5 pound bags.

I read somewhere that when you start up a diatom filter, it will produce a cloud of white into your tank from the powder. I don't want to go from a green tank to a white one. Is this something to be worried about?

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Old 03-22-2005, 02:51 PM   #16
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IMO the D-1 will be fine. I used the D1 on my 125 and it worked very well at cleaning the water when my UV light pump failed and baked the light sending all kinds of nasty crap into the reef.
There can be a white cloud released into the tank but the filter will clean that up it will not stay there. If you follow the directions and go slow there won't be much of a cloud. If you get the extra $12 valve this will help control the cloud at start up because it recycles the water already in the unit till the filter gets coated with diatom powder.
I want to say the 1lb bag will give you 5-6 charges.
The D1 they say is built to run up to 8 hours the XL can run 24/7. I guess some people use these as full time filters.
I ran the D1 for about 15 hours with no problems, Im sure it can run longer if needed. It just what they had on the site.
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Old 03-22-2005, 04:39 PM   #17
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Thank you Seaham, you've been extremely helpful. That's exactly what I needed.
I think I'll go ahead and order this.

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Old 03-22-2005, 07:13 PM   #18
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I am not saying that this is a cure all..... There is still some reason for the bloom.

But the filter should help clear the water up till you figure out what is going on.
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:13 PM   #19
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For those of you following this thread..

I ordered the diatom filter but haven't rec'd it yet, but my green water is GOING AWAY! We are very happy. Still don't know what caused it, but whatever it was, hopefully we don't repeat the mistake!

Thanks go everyone who offered advice!

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Old 03-25-2005, 10:23 AM   #20
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Sounds like the algae bloom is over.... Its possible it used up what ever nutrients it was feeding off of in the tank. Thats good news...
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